Back in 2014, Dr. Loren Fishman’s side plank theory for scoliosis research was published in the Wall Street Journal, and it caused quite a stir. In case you need a refresher, the study claimed that doing a yoga side plank on one side every day will decrease the curves in people with scoliosis.
What an easy fix that would be! As I dug into the research, however, I found flaws in his research and also disagreed with some of his main concepts:
- It advocated planking on the incorrect side.
- Simply doing a side plank alone will not work for the majority of people. Modifying exercises is crucial for those with scoli. A one-size-fits-all exercise approach, like the one recommended in the article, doesn’t exist. There is no magic exercise or “magic pill.”
I have been vocal about my disagreement with Dr. Fishman’s research since its release in 2014, and that hasn’t changed. What has changed is the number of movement based solutions I have researched and created that do use specialized exercises to help people manage their scoliosis. I’ve made these accessible online to help people around the world affected by scoliosis.
Some of my favorite resources are:
- A scoliosis resource page with personalised, actionable lists (including movements you can do to help your scoliosis)
- The 5 best exercises for scoliosis
- Online scoli workout videos
- A scoliometer app (iTunes and Android) and worksheet to track your scoliosis
- A special Scoliosis Intensive workshop for people who don’t live in Nashville so you can learn my methods and keep your scoliosis healthy at home
- I Have Scoliosis; Now What? a book that guides you through the complexities of living a full life with scoliosis back by extensive medical research and personal client experience
- Analyzing Scoliosis, a book that teaches movement practitioners my research-backed method of working with scoli clients
- Scoliosis workshops for movement practitioners
If you are looking for an exercise to help your scoliosis, there isn’t a “magic” one, as I demonstrate below. However, many of the resources immediately above have movements and exercises listed in them. If performed correctly, they can help decrease pain and untwist a scoliotic spine. If you’re feeling overwhelmed by the list of resources, my highly-trained staff and I offer virtual lessons for a more personalized and guided approach.
The rest of this post is an updated compilation of the posts I made in the immediate aftermath of the study and the following months. It covers all things related to the side plank theory. I suggest you read the parts that pertain most directly to you. You’ll be able to read more about:
- My rebuttal of the original research
- What happened to a teen in Norway who contacted me after following Dr. Fishman’s planking program
- How to correctly perform a side plank for scoliosis
Rebuttal of 2014 research study: Side plank theory for scoliosis
A recent, widely-reported research article states doing a yoga side plank only on one specific side will actively decrease the curves in people with scoliosis. As a certified Pilates instructor with scoliosis and an advocate for movement in treating scoliosis, I was definitely intrigued.
With an estimated five to seven million people in the United States living with scoliosis, a miracle cure (as in, a simple exercise done for one-and-a-half minutes, five days a week) would of course garner national attention. But, after doing extensive research on my own, I’ve discovered a huge problem with this recent research: the plank was done on the wrong side. However, despite unknowingly having their participants conduct the plank on the wrong side, the researchers were still able to report that an overwhelming majority of the participants experienced decreases in their individual Cobb angle measurements. How could this be? I had to figure out what was going on.
Before I detail my own findings, which directly contradict the aforementioned research, it’s important to note that I’m a huge proponent of studying the effects of exercise on scoliosis. So little research exists, despite a demonstrated need that the medical world at large and the millions of people living with scoliosis have a hard time discovering exercise is indeed a viable therapy for managing scoliosis.
Why the findings didn’t make sense
The study said the plank should be performed with the CONVEX side of the curve facing towards the floor. I was startled when I first read this because it was counterintuitive to everything I had been taught, practiced on myself, and taught to my clients. I sent out emails to trusted colleagues around the world, and they too, were just as confused as I was. At the same time, I received numerous emails asking for my opinion on the side plank “cure.”
A quick note about curves
The study never specified which curve the researchers focused on. Scoliosis often presents with more than one curve. In these cases, one curve is typically more significant than all the others. It is referred to as the major curve and is usually found around the ribcage. All the research and my experience has taught me to treat the major curve. For the rest of this post, when a curve is referred to (or its convexity or concavity), it is the major thoracic curve.
I studied the research report meticulously, and for final reference, I consulted Three-Dimensional Treatment for Scoliosis: A Physiotherapeutic Method for Deformities of the Spine by Christa Lehnert-Schroth, P.T., and located the exact side plank exercise referenced in the study. There, contrary to the recent report, I found that the exercise is supposed to be done with the CONCAVE side of the curvature in the ribcage aiming down towards the floor. The researchers had done the opposite; patients did a plank with the CONVEX side down. Even so, the subjects still reported positive results. How was this possible? I had to dig deeper.
In the study, the researchers relate the spine and its muscles to wires holding up a tower. The spinal extensor muscles that run parallel on the sides of the spine are the wires holding up the spine (tower). The researchers state that the left extensors are bending the tower to the right because they are shorter. They conclude that the right extensors need to be fired to pull the tower (the spine) back up. There are a lot of issues with this theory.
If you’ve ever looked at the bare back of someone who has scoliosis, the spinal extensors on the CONVEX side are big and beefy looking (despite physically being longer compared to the concave side). The CONCAVE spinal extensors (despite being shorter) are usually atrophied to almost nothing. Sometimes they don’t even fire. To illustrate, imagine a person like the one shown here. They have an “S” scoliosis curve that starts to the right in the ribcage and goes to the left in the lumbar area. (To make things less confusing we will assume this is the curvature we are talking about for the rest of the post.) The researchers refer to the right bulkier muscled side (convex) as being the “weaker side.” While the right side is the longer side of the spinal extensors, it is not necessarily the weaker side.
In my experience, the main focus should not be to make the long, overworked spinal extensors work more and become shortened. That’s simply incorrect. Initially, you’ve got to look at another group of muscles to help. Those muscles are the trapezius and rhomboids. They are further away from the spine than the extensors and actually act as more efficient wires for that scoliotic spine than the spinal extensors do.
In our drawing, the spine is physically closer to the shoulder blade on the right side. What you don’t want to do is make the spine become even closer to the shoulder blade by shortening the muscles that connect them (the spinal extensors the study recommends working). If your right hand is on the floor for a side plank, CONVEX side down, you’d fire the right rhomboids and trapezius muscles, strengthening already beefed up muscles. It makes no sense. If you focus on the muscles on the right side, they’ll end up in spasm.
Muscles don’t push on bones, they pull. If the goal is to pull the spine back to a more neutral position, you’d do a plank with the left hand down (CONCAVE side down). This would fire the left rhomboids and trapezius muscles, which would then pull the spine back towards the left shoulder blade to a more neutral position.
Yet despite my disputing the researchers’ choice of side plank, the research subjects still reported a decrease in Cobb angle measurements by doing the side plank with the CONVEX side down. I had to look further into the research sample.
The flaws in the research sample
Flaw 4: One subject’s data skewed the results
When comparing the beginning and ending Cobb angle degrees for 22 patients in the research, everyone who had an initial Cobb angle ABOVE 40 degrees showed a huge decrease in their final Cobb angle measurement. Only one person with idiopathic scoliosis had an initial measurement above 40 degrees, the other six were below. The study’s results were not nearly as impressive when the starting measurement was under 40 degrees. In fact, three subjects’ curves actually increased. The sole patient who started with a 43 degree Cobb angle had a huge decrease in the final measurement, ending around 12 degrees. As the mean research statistics were combined, that huge decrease figure offset the other six patients’ changes. It turns out the numbers aren’t as impressive as initially suspected.
Flaw 2: Two incomparable types of scoliosis were treated as comparable
Two vastly different types of scoliosis were allowed in the study: adolescent idiopathic scoliosis and degenerative scoliosis.
Idiopathic scoliosis usually has at least two curves and typically shows up during the teenage years, hence the “adolescent” part of the diagnosis. Degenerative scoliosis usually shows up after the age of 40 and is oftentimes associated with osteoporosis and a single curve.
Of the 19 active participants in the study, seven patients had two curves. This means that seven patients with had idiopathic scoliosis and 12 patients with a single curve had degenerative scoliosis. Therefore, less than half of the study participants had idiopathic scoliosis. However, most of the news coverage stated that this research was applicable for people with idiopathic scoliosis. The majority of the participants didn’t even have idiopathic scoliosis so that claim isn’t valid.
Of the seven people that had idiopathic scoliosis, the curvatures in their initial x-rays ranged from 6 to 43 degrees. Of the 12 people with degenerative scoliosis, their initial curves ranged from 10 to 120 degrees. Even though there were a few low numbers in the degenerative group, their degree of curvature was much higher on average than those with idiopathic scoliosis. That’s a huge discrepancy in curvature that makes it hard to draw comparisons.
Flaw 1: The sample size was very small
There were 25 people in the study initially, but only 19 complied with the parameters for regular planking. The researchers acknowledged this was a very small sample size.
Flaw 5: The timing of the follow-up x-ray varied widely
The follow-up x-ray took place anywhere from 3 to 22 months after the initial one. That’s a wide range of time.
Flaw 3: Participant data wasn’t reported consistently
The study initially had 25 participants and 19 completed it successfully. Yet 22 patients’ info was reported on a graph, indicating that data is either missing or data that shouldn’t be included was included. This happened on a graph comparing the initial and ending Cobb angle degree measurements.
Regardless of the lengthy follow-up timeframe, the differences between idiopathic and degenerative scoliosis, the expansive range of the initial Cobb angle, the small, inconsistent number of subjects, AND doing the side plank on the wrong side, this study showed an overall decrease in scoliosis curves. This still wasn’t making sense.
How the study got positive results
I think the secret to the positive results reported by Dr. Fishman’s study lies in core engagement and correct alignment. The subjects were taught to elevate the ribcage towards the CONCAVE side (which would be the ceiling in the researchers case) before doing the exercise. This instruction would bring their spine into better overall alignment before the exercise was started, thereby decreasing the negative effect of performing it on the wrong side.
Also, despite there being only 25 people in the study initially, a total of seven different modifications of the side plank were given. This important information was not included in any of the articles that reported the study. Many of the plank variations included some kind of strengthening for the CONCAVE side, be that pushing the free hand down on yoga blocks or holding a yoga strap to pull the top leg up. Again, the researchers were, probably subconsciously, modifying the side plank to work the CONCAVE side at least a little bit, despite working the incorrect CONVEX side with the side plank.
Finally, the majority of people with scoliosis in this study had degenerative scoliosis, likely had osteoporosis, and were probably over the age of 40. We have no idea what their exercise routine and strength level was before the study. I’ll bet that just the act of firing all the muscles in the body in an anatomically correct posture was the reason for the profound decrease in their Cobb angles and Dr. Fishman’s positive results.
The takeaway
Unfortunately, there isn’t a magic pill for people living with scoliosis. I mean, come on, with a mere 25 subjects SEVEN modifications were given for just ONE exercise. The researchers couldn’t even find one simple exercise for this small group to perform the same way! This proves that you must mold exercises for each and every (scoliotic) body in front of you…and that’s what these researchers did. That is a big reason for their success.
Even with all of the flaws in this study, the researchers still found an overall improvement in Cobb angle measurements by doing an exercise one-and-a-half minutes a day, five days a week. That’s incredible! This would lead one to believe that exercise, no matter how incorrect it may be, can still have positive results on scoliosis if correct alignment and firing the core muscles is done. Now THAT’S something to consider, and certainly something that needs to be studied further.
Can you imagine the results if they redid this study doing the correct side plank?
Norway case study, 2015
Now that you know where I stand on the findings from the side plank theory study, let’s put my ideas into practice with a small case study. It originally came to me in the form of an email from a man in Norway who’s been performing the yoga side plank as recommended by the study in an effort to decrease his curve.
This first photo on the left was taken before he began doing side planks multiple times a week. After he read my rebuttal of the yoga side plank theory study, he began to panic that perhaps he was performing the plank on the wrong side, and had made his scoliosis worse. This is when he decided to reach out to me.
Well, what do you think? Does it look like his scoliosis has gotten worse based on the photos above? Make up your own mind and then watch the video below for my original decision.
How to correctly perform a side plank
If planking makes your scoliosis feel better, watch this video on how to perform it correctly. Remember, I am showing you which side would work for my individual scoliosis. I have a right thoracic curve (ribcage) and left lumbar curve, therefore I believe that I would do my side plank with my left hand down. This is the opposite of what the side plank study recommends.
Conclusion
If you’ve made it all the way down here, bravo! Please remember that even if you choose do the side plank on the correct side for your body, I believe it is not the best exercise to help your scoliosis. Why? Because extensive research and over 10 years of working with scoli bodies has shown me otherwise. I have developed many products, including books and at-home workouts, based on that information and believe these are the best resources for helping manage your scoliosis. If you’d like assistance navigating your scoliosis journey, whether you’re someone with scoli or work with the scoliosis world, my staff and I are here to help. Simply book an in-person or virtual lesson.
Erin Myers is an international presenter on scoliosis and founder of Spiral Spine, a company designed to enrich the lives of people with scoliosis. She’s also created a number of scoliosis resources including the books I Have Scoliosis; Now What? and Analyzing Scoliosis, the scoliometer app (iPhone and Android) and many videos. She owns Spiral Spine Pilates studio in Brentwood, TN, which allows her to actively pursue her passion of helping those with scoliosis through Pilates, which she has been doing for over 15 years.
Justine Closterman says
Hello! I have a right thoracic fusion and a lumber curve 26 degrees. the left lumbar is where I feel more pain, I believe it’s the “erectors” or QL that always feel tight.
I tried doing a side bend on the roman chair (bending down on my left) to feel my concave on my right side fire up — I felt as though my obliques were sore the next day and not my QL or erectors on the left, that side feels sleepy and I can’t figure out how to fire up that side
Naomi says
hi
If you have a scoliosis and want to do side planks for overall strength, is it harmful to do them on both sides?
Erin Myers says
Hi Naomi,
Great question. No, it’s not harmful to do side planks on both sides for overall strength–it’s actually what I encourage.
Erin Myers
Steve says
A followup post by the person who originally said this says that if you have a thoracic curve, you do an elevated feet side plank on the side of the curve, and if you have a lumbar curve, you do side panks. So it makes sense that you saying side planks in the side of the curve are wrong would be your reaction. Because it’s correct. If you have a lumbar curve to the right (convex on the right), doing a side plank on the right would be wrong. The paper mentions doing side planks with elevated feet on the right for a curve on the right. You would do side planks on the floor on your left for a left lumbar curve, and a left lumbar curve might pair with a right thoracic curve, so you would make the pose on the left side down, as mentioned in this website.
Summary:
Right thoracic curve – do an elevated feet side plank on the right.
Left lumbar curve – do a regular side plank on the left.
There’s another pose they use, too, however I don’t remember the use.
Charles Whittlesey says
I’m no expert, but my understanding of anatomy from weightlifting doesn’t fit your conclusions about the side plank being wrongly done on the convex side. While it’s true that the spinal muscles are typically already stronger on the convex side (as in my own case), the spinal erectors are incredibly strong muscles, allowing people to deadlift and squat hundreds of pounds, so I don’t think the side plank works them very hard. On the convex side, it seems like the internal and external obliques and the quadratus lumborum are in the best position to do most of the heavy work, pulling the rib cage and the hips closer together, while the spinal erectors mostly provide static support. That would explain why the side plank yielded results in the study even though it was done on the “wrong side.” Curious what you think about this idea.
Erin Myers says
Hi Charles,
I love your mind! Nice job thinking through this. In the original research, none of this was spoken about–exactly what muscles were working and focused on in the side plank. There was a diagram where a tower was being pulled by guy-wires, so I made the assumption that the erectors were the muscles being focused on here since the obliques don’t attach the the spine like guy-wires. Only the erectors are able to be depicted like the drawing.
That all being said, over the years I’ve come to realize that on the lumbar convex side the erectors are overworked and the obliques are underworked (just like what you said). On the concave side it’s the opposite where the erectors are underworked and the obliques are overworked. With that being established, a side plank works both the erectors and the obliques. To much more efficiently fix the imbalance between the obliques and erectors I like to do different oblique work on the lumbar convex side where the erectors don’t have the option to fire at all. Conversely, on the concave side I like to do different exercises where just erectors are fired and the obliques are not to re-establish balance.
Great job thinking through all this,
Erin Myers
rohit says
Hi i have, lumbar Dextroscoliosis should i do side plank on lefe or right side.
Erin Myers says
Hi Rohit,
I’m glad you want to be proactive with your scoli, but I would not suggest a side plank as the main exercise for scoli. I’d encourage you to do some of the exercises in the book I Have Scoliosis; Now What? (available on amazon) or book a virtual lesson with one of our staff to assess your spine and customize your exercises.
Erin
Mark Baum says
Hmm. Is there an exercise that can isolate the erectors unilaterally?
Also, do you ever encourage exercises that specifically target the QL?
(I have one that I do but it seems to contradict the advice Christa Schroth gives about not bending sideways https://www.schrothmethod.com/yoga-for-scoliosis)
Erin Myers says
Hi Mark,
Oh sure, there are many exercises that isolate the erectors unilaterally. I have some in my books Analyzing Scoliosis; The Pilates Instructor’s Guide to Scoliosis and I Have Scoliosis; Now What? . You can always book a virtual lesson with me or one of my staff at Spiral Spine and we can give you some exercises for your specific scoli too. I very, very rarely give people QL exercises, but I do give specific oblique work often. Great job looking for exercises for your specific scoli. Feel free to reach out to Spiral Spine for more help if you’d like it for your scoli.
Blessings,
Erin Myers
Lil says
Hi Erin, I am hoping you can answer my question. I supposedly have levoscoliosis. It was according to my doctor as he saw it on a 3d ct scan of my entire bony thorax. His scan was converted with some program to actually see the bony thorax.
The radiologist never even mentioned it but after the other doctor looked at the CT scan he mentioned it. I also had a plain film x-ray, which showed I had some levoscoliosis. Unfortunately, I am not having any luck with PTS or doctors. This doctor told me just to strengthen my back equally which I know is wrong.
Before this even showed up on x-ray I was having a lot of left scapula rib cage issues which I’m still having and compression on my left side of my chest . heart issues were ruled out 3 years ago. Just went back to cardio to have him rechk b/c now have pressure again in chest. He wants to do a petscan to make sure nothing is going on. 3 hears ago nothing showed levo, now it does. My question is, are you supposed to strengthen the convex side and the convex side would be my left side then? I ordered your book in hopes that it will help. Do you still see patients in person if needed? I just need someone who knows about this b/c I’m worried about my body and what it’s doing to my insides. I’m tired of seeing uninformed pt’s. Thank you for your time. Lil
Erin Myers says
Hi Lil,
Thanks for reaching out. Levoscoliosis simply means you have scoliosis with the convex side bending to the right. Dextroscoliosis means the convex side is bending to the right.
My staff and I would love to help you along your scoli journey. We do virtual lessons and work with people virtually all over the world on a weekly basis. I’d encourage you contact Spiral Spine and my staff would be happy to help you get set up with the best fitting instructor for you.
The reality is that scoliosis is complex, and I wish it was as easy as simply strengthening on side of the curve. Believe me, I’ve read the research (and talked to the researcher!!), messed around with it on myself and clients for a long time, and it’s just not that simple.
I hope my staff and I get to work with you soon.
Blessings,
Erin
Carl says
Great content through the whole of the website so thank you.
What exercises would you recomend for someone who has a lumbar major curve instead of a side plank?
Erin Myers says
Hi Carl,
Such a simple exercise, and yet a complex answer. Here’s the big picture, you need to get the muscles in the concave part of your curve to start firing. The convex are overfiring. In my book I Have Scoliosis; Now What? and Analyzing Scoliosis, The Pilates Instructor’s Guide to Scoliosis I have many pictures and descriptions of lumbar multifidus exercises. I’d suggest start there. Some people respond well do sidling exercises with the convex lumbar side up, while some respond to prone work. It depends on your muscle firing pattern with your glutes. It never as simple as giving one basic exercise to all people that have a lumbar curve (a blanket policy should always make one question). You can check out other resources we have here as well. If you’re frustrated, you can always book a virtual lesson with one of my staff. We work with people all over the world on a weekly basis and we’d be happy to assess your situation and give you some homework exercises for your scoli. Great job on being proactive for your scoli.
Blessings,
Erin
Sergio says
In my case, my convex side (my right side) was always weaker as a result of scoliosis, I remember when I read Loren’s article for the first time and compared to my case I always agreed with him, that we have the right side more Big does not mean that I am muscularly stronger, in my case I can see that my muscles on the left side are stronger than those on the right side.
Michael says
“If you’ve ever looked at the bare back of someone who has scoliosis, the spinal extensors on the CONVEX side are big and beefy looking.”
For me it is the opposite. I have an S curve (left thoracic 27°, right lumbar 20°). I am tight in my left glutes and Quadratus Lumborum all the way up my right side.
Erin Myers says
Hi Michael,
Yes, with your pattern I could see your left glutes and QL would be tighter (I couldn’t tell in the way you wrote your comment if your left or right QL was tighter). I bet your right extensors (muscle to the very right of your lumbar spine) are more built up than your left side in your lumbar spine. The sentence that you quoted me in was about the erectors, not the glutes and QL, but yes the complexity of all the bilateral scoli muscles is discrepant right to left. It sounds like your engagement pattern is quite normal for scoli.
Erin
Rachel says
Hi Erin, thanks for making this response, it’s been super validating for me. Mostly because I found that my convex sides were much stronger and tighter than my concave sides, and that wasn’t making sense in what I’d read elsewhere. Even the physio I saw was a bit confused.
firstly, apologies that I can’t seem to get capital letters to work.
i have an S curve, but the bottom (left) curve actually ends at around L1 to L2 and starts in the thoracic and is the more prominent curve compared to the upper thoracic (right) one. Since the lower curve is a bit higher, if I do look into side planks, should I do them concave thoracic/lumbar to the right? Obviously you can’t give me exercises to do without seeing me, but it’s been a bit frustrating that my physio has been confused with my scoliosis presentation and it’d be great to have some advice.
Erin Myers says
Hi Rachel,
For your curve, I wouldn’t do side planks. I defiantly want you to keep moving though and find other exercises (which there are plenty). You can do a virtual lesson with me or one of the staff at Spiral Spine. We work with people all over the world virtually on a weekly basis. Once you are comfortable with there your pads go and a few homework exercises you can then workout virtual with us in group classes, which we’ll be starting this month. If you want to get nitty gritty and figure this out on your own, then I’d suggest getting my book Analyzing Scoliosis, and watching some of my online workshops with Fusion Pilates EDU. All of that (and a lot more) are available on the shop page of SpiralSpine.com. I hope I get to work with you soon. I’m very proud of you for proactively working to love on your scoliosis.
Blessings,
Erin Myers
Lailah says
Hello,
I have a C curve and my spine curves to the left abs my left side is the weakest. My rib cage sticks out to my left if you look at my back Which side to I need to work on like which side should I be strengthening?
Also could you help me under stand which side I need to do the plank?
I stay getting my muscles pulled in my left side it’s the tightest.
Ive Had scoliosis since I was 14 in 2004..
Erin Myers says
Hi Lailah,
My staff and I would love to help you create a strengthening game plan for your scoli. Because everyone’s scoli is unique, it’d be best to do a virtual lesson where we can assess your scoliosis and then teach you the best exercises for your body. Great job being proactive about your scoli and I hope my staff and I get to work with you soon.
Blessings,
Erin Myers
maja says
Hi,i have a left lumbar curve and i do not know on which side to do a plank on?
maja says
sorry i ment to say right lumbar curve
Erin Myers says
Hi Maja,
Great job being proactive with your scoli. I’m not a big fan of this exercise as being a miracle cure for scoli, therefore I don’t want to tell you which side to do it on. I believe there are many other, better options for exercises. You can check out here or here to find out what exercises are great options for your scoli body. If you’d like more guidance, my teachers and I would love to do a virtual lesson with you to create a specific exercise plan for your scoli. Blessings, Erin
kai says
Thank you for this article! i have an S-curve where my thoracic curve is convex on the right and my lumbar curve is convex on the left. i don’t know if i should try the plank because of this. could you suggest some other exercises too? and if i were to try the plank, which side would i do it on? thank you so much!
Erin Myers says
Hi Kai,
You have the same scoliosis I do, and it’s a very common scoli pattern. My body is not a fan of doing a side plank for rehab for my scoli (on either side), and I choose to do other exercises. Yes, I have many exercises I can recommend to you, but it’s too much to write in a comment on a blog. This is a great place to start. On that page there are free videos to watch and blogs to read. I also have links to different online workout scoli videos and there’s also a link to tell you more about virtual lessons with me and my staff. Great job researching to find movement to help scoli–and yes there are lots! Start the journey by reading and watching the links above and let me know if you need my guidance as you progress on your journey.
Blessings,
Erin
Scott Chua says
hi. the convex side of my spine is on the left of my back. DOes this mean that I should do a right hand side plank?
Scott Chua says
edit: I have a c shaped spine.
Erin Myers says
Hi Scott,
Not only do we not know enough about your scoli to tell which side should go down, but I’m not usually a fan of giving side planks as a form of therapy, which I state in the blog. Your back needs to be analyzed (which you can do for free following the short starting point videos on this site) and then we can go from there on figuring out which exercises you should do. If you want to speed the process up for figuring out correct exercises for your back, you can always book a virtual lesson with one of the staff at Spiral Spine if you would like help. I’m excited that you want to be proactive about helping your scoliosis, but we need to know more about your body first.
Blessings,
Erin
Erin Myers says
Jackie,
I’d love to work with you and see if I can figure out what’s going on. With scoliosis there’s almost always rotation, and if usually multiple rotations. I think a virtual lesson would be the easiest option for me to work with you right now. Feel free to contact me through the contact page of this website and Spiral Spine’s client care coordinator will get back with you to give you more info. Great job being proactive about your scoliosis.
Blessings,
Erin
Melody says
As I have scoliosis myself, I do feel that my Muscle on Convex side is stronger and concave side is weaker. With concave side down, the muscles can pull that spine back to the center. And it really works and The spine become straighter. I have taken photos to compare. I don’t know why people challenge that. Please Do insist in what you believe! I support you!
Melody says
This exercise really works! The spine become straighter after 2 months ‘ exercise. Thank you for telling us the right side to do! Thank you very much!
Erin Myers says
I’m so glad to hear this!
Attila K says
Dear Erin
I would buy your book, but it is impossible, bacause amazon doesn’t deliver anything to my country. Any other solution ?
Thank you attila
Erin Myers says
Hi Attila,
I’ve created many other resources for people in your position around the world. I’d highly encourage you to take time and look at everything on this site. Check out The Starting Point Series and the Scoliosis Resources section. I’ve made many resources free for people around the world. You’ll have many free videos to watch, articles to read, and things I teach you to do for homework. Once you’ve exhausted all the resources on this site, feel free to book a virtual lesson with me where I’ll give your daughter more homework for her specific scoliosis. I’ve decreased my own scoli curves as an adult (by about 20 degrees in each curve), have decreased many kids’ curves in my studio, have a staff of 8 whom I’ve taught to do the same at my studio, teach workshops around the world to teach other people to do the same, and also do virtual lessons to help people around the world who can’t fin help. Spend time on this site, glean everything you can from all the info I’ve put out and when and if you need more help, I’m happy to help. And as for the side plank, it’s not helpful–there’s so much better info out there and so many better exercises.
Blessings,
Erin
Fatimah says
hi
I loved your accuracy and your credibility, especially in the plank exercise, but what do you think of the Caw Cat exercise and how it performed correctly for scoliosis?
Type C long from T6 to L5
Erin Myers says
Hi Fatimah,
I wouldn’t use a Cat Cow exercise as a rehab exercise necessarily for someone who has scoli. Instead, I’d focus on learning where to place pads for your body why lying on your back and on your side. Watch the free Starting Point videos on this site (spiralspine.com) and you’ll learn to diagram out your body and figure out where to place pads. Once you know that, you can do exercises while the pads are under you to untwist you. If you want a lot more exercises, I’d suggest you get my latest book Analyzing Scoliosis and watch any of my scoliosis workout videos which you can find on the shop page. If you do Cat Cow without knowing more about your scoli you’ll most likely sink straight into your curves while doing it. Let me know if you need more help.
Blessings,
Erin Myers
Candice says
hi, i am soon to purchase your book.
i really cant wait.
just saw your comment on glute issues though … i experience a kind of stiffening pain in my right glute med (convex side). could this be due to weakness in this glute? i also have IT band pain on the outside of my left knee … could this be connected?
Peter Karagines says
What side would you do the side plank on if you have an S curve?
Erin Myers says
I wouldn’t do a side plank on one side as a rehab exercise for scoli. In my opinion there are many other exercises that are better. I have many videos you can watch to learn exercises that are available on the shop page of spiralspine.com. I also have a new book, jam-packed with exercises to help your scoli, that’s coming out in about a month called Analyzing Scoliosis. It will be available on amazon. Blessings, Erin
Jennifer G fortaleza says
Too uncomfortable side plank for arthritic related subtle levoscoliosis lumbar situation ….and tough on a person with irregular and mild slight assymetric length from left plane some inch longer than the right lateral plane while also overtime developing Mild C-curvature levoscoliosis 1.9 degree … — weakened muscles surrounding back and spine over – chronic arthritic symptoms …
Hwai mei says
Wow!! Great stuff and great hope for me!! I have scoliosis and am actually doubting the benefit of exercise. Thanks! I have inverted S curve and would love u to recommend some exercises!
Erin Myers says
Good and correct exercise can do mounds of good for your scoli! Don’t give up hope. I have many resources to help you figure out the best exercises for you and you can find them on the shop page of this website: https://spiralspine.com/spiral-spine-online-store/. I also have resource that is not yet on the website, and that is Analyzing Scoliosis, a continuing education video available here: https://fusionpilatesedu.com/courses/workshops/analyzing-scoliosis/. I will have 5 more videos released with Fusion Pilates Edu in the next 2 years, so stay tuned! Start with some of the resources I listed and then we can go from there. I hope this helps.
Blessings,
Erin
A. Bhuniya says
Thank you very much for this writing. I like your thoughts and reasons.
I have lot of idiopathic adolescent scoliosis patient. All are T-L scoliosis with rotation. I am doing exactly what you said. Weight bearing on the concave side in plank posture. Of course, I give other exercises also, esp the core muscles with self stretching / strengthening, Taping and auto correction in front of the mirror. It is helping them.
At first I emphasize on Lumbar – thoracic should follow through .
Is there any way we can do plank posture along with derotation exercises?
Erin Myers says
I’m glad to you’re having success working with scoliosis clients. As for how to derotate in a plank, derotation happens internally from breath. From the back, cue posterior lateral breath on the concave side of the curves. Hope that helps. Erin
Jessica says
Didnt you say convex side down?
Erin Myers says
Hi Jessica,
As I stated in my rebuttals, I wouldn’t do it. I don’t do this as a form of rehab for myself, nor for my clients. If you did do it, I’d do it thoracic concave curve down, lumbar convex down if you have a typical upper right/lower left curve. But, there are so many better options. I’d encourage you to go to the scoliosis resources page https://spiralspine.com/scoliosis/ on this site to start your journey on proactively caring for your scoli.
Blessings,
Erin
Cindy Hintz says
I would like to learn more. I’m. struggling in PT right now due to frequent flair ups as we’re working both sides to strengthen my core muscles and relieve pain. I have a nagging ache between my spine and shoulder blade. My curve kind of rotates and is 34 degrees and idiopathic. I’m 56 yrs old and just trying to get relief.
Erin Myers says
Hi Cindy,
I’m glad you reached out. It sounds like the PT you’re seeing doesn’t have a good understanding of scoli and how to calm down the muscle spasms you’re having around your spine (this is very common in America and in the UK, because they really aren’t trained in scoliosis in PT school). One of the big problems you’re having is that you’re working the muscles on both sides of your spine right now. My guess is that the area between your spine and right shoulder blade is in worse spasm than your left and your curve bends to the right. If that’s the case, you need to release the right side with a ball or your PT’s or massage therapist’s hands and just work the left side. Get a massage by a great manual therapist weekly for the next 2-3 weeks and have them focus on your torso muscles and my guess is your acute symptoms should calm down. Once you’re not in constant pain I have many resources to help you avoid pain in the future: books, at home workout scoli videos, online workshops for practitioners, virtual lesson, etc. Check out https://spiralspine.com/scoliosis/ for some of the resources to help your scoli. If you would like more personalized help along your scoli journey feel free to reach out to us at Spiral Spine https://spiralspine.com/contact/ and my staff and I would love to help you. You don’t have to live in pain. I’m really glad you reached out. Blessings, Erin Myers
Mary Stalteri says
The correct side is the concave side down (lumbar) no matter your secondary thoracic curve going to the right?
Erin Myers says
Mary, the research is convex lumbar curve down (yes, regardless of what’s going on up above it). I’ve been up to my eye balls in going through research on movement and putting it in a book that will be published soon. I didn’t put any of this information in it. In other words, I’d avoid this exercise. There are MUCH better exercises out there. Stay tuned… In the meantime, if you go to the Shop page of this site you can see the video Untwisting Scoli: Maya, which has about an hour of exercises for scoli. Also, I have a video on Fusion Pilates EDU’s website called Analyzing Scoliosis which has two hours of exercises for scoli. I have five more videos coming out on their site in the next two years. Lots coming soon to help you figure out good exercises based in good research. Blessings, Erin
Irma says
I was told to do the side plank on both sides of my s curve. I questioned this because I felt like whatever I was doing was counter intuitive. When I questioned my doctor he simply said ok do it on the one side for the lumbar curve. Theoretically I was told that straightening the lumbar would have an effect on the thoracic curve,it being compensatory. Very confusing and highly questionable. I have since found a video from a pt in Calgary Canada which seems more reasonable but still not sure. Trying to locate a therapist who can help me
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Erin Myers says
Hi Irma, Thanks for reaching out and thanks for questioning doing the side plank for your scoli. As you can see from this post (and I have a few other posts on this as well that are follow-ups) this is extremely controversial. I have TONS of scoli clients and have never given the side plank as a homework exercise for a client to improve their scoli. I have found lots of other exercise scoli research that is much more sound and use those findings in my lessons, client homework, books, and videos. I have a new book coming out in the next few months where I site all this research and give exercises. I also have a few videos you can watch (with 5 more videos coming out in the next 2 years). On SpiralSpine.com you can find most of my products, including Hard Core Scoli and Analyzing Scoli:Maya, which are two videos I’d recommend for you. One video that is not yet up on my site is Analyzing Scoliosis on Fusion Pilates Edu’s site and you can access it here: https://goo.gl/bXDKfY. I want your mind to be opened that there are LOTS of different exercises that can help your scoli. I hope this helps. Blessings, Erin Myers
Jo Blick says
Hello I am 55 female, upper right thoracic 55deg lumbar left 32deg. Idiopathic. I have recently corrected my thoracic curve by 7degrees. No fusion.
My bulky length of muscles are on the left, concave part of the thoracic area- a little lower, perhaps centred just above the waistline. Not the right. My weakened muscles are definitely on the convex side of the thoracic curve. However, if i perform a modified plank on the right, without using my right arm as a lever but pushing down with the right leg and left arm, bracing myself using the right shoulder against the floor, I feel the maximum pain relief and pull against the scoliosis.
I just want to add that I beleive I have corrected my curve by using ergotherapy, not exercises. Because the autonomous nervous system is unconscious the exercises must be performed whilst doing activities of daily living. ADL’S. which tricks the brain. If exercises are conscious they are still usefull but less effective.
In my opinion a right side plank WILL partly correct A RIGHT THORACIC CURVE.
I think your ther critique of the study is valid, however because there are definitely flaws in the amount of tests and the standardisation of testing.
Every curve is special. We all must learn our own curves and concentrate on our own muscle groups (as unconsciously as possible)
Erin Myers says
Thank you for your thoughts and testimony from your own scoliosis. Congrats on reducing your curvature so much! Many people don’t believe me that it’s possible, so it’s great to hear that you stabilized your curve so wonderfully. Yes, I agree that there is so much more to helping scoliosis than just exercises. I hope people look into the therapy you suggested. Keep loving on your body! Blessings, Erin Myers
Alexia says
Hi! I have a right thoracic curve but my muscular imbalance is totally the opposite: I have bulky muscles on the right side (convex side) and my weak side, full of muscular nodes (and pain) is the left side, my concave side.
I have been doing Dr.Fishman’s side plank on the right side but I think that that side is wrong for me because it is strengthening my right side, which is already pretty strong.
What needs strengthening for me if my left side.
Erin Myers says
Hi Alexia,
Research shows that the muscles on the convex side are stronger than the concave side, so yes, I’d agree with the conclusions you came to. This is why I wasn’t (and still am not) a big advocate of the side plank research. I would stop doing it with your right hand down. Truly, I’m not a big fan of side planks for scoli rehab, so I’d stick with other exercises. But, if you’re going to do it–do it with your left hand down. You can see what other exercises I suggest, based on other research, in my latest book, Analyzing Scoliosis (available on amazon). I also have many different workout videos you can check out for scoli on the shop page of spiralspine.com. Good job thinking through your scoliosis and considering if certain exercises are in fact good for it. Blessings, Erin Myers
Toby says
How can you say the exercises are incorrect if they work. This article is majorly incorrect, side planks do not work the traps and rhomboids, it primarily focuses on obliques and lats. I don’t see how the study you presented has flaws. If i were to do a side plank just on my right side, over time i would develop laevoconvex scoliosis. So when you talk about a side plank on the convex side being “incorrect”, there is no logic in that. Like you said there is no ‘magic pill’ so of course every scoliotic patient needs to be catered to differently. That’s like saying everyone who is sick could be treated with the same drugs. It’s just an obvious no.
Erin Myers says
Hi Toby, in a million years I truly could never have imagined that this simple rebuttal article of mine would cause such waves in the scoliosis world. I’ve corresponded publicly (on this blog) and privately (via email, on the phone, and physically seeing clients at my studio) with people who are confused on which side to do the plank on, people who think I’m wrong, people who think I’m right, people whose scoli has gotten worse by doing the side plank the way the article says, and people whose practitioner gave them this exact exercise on the side the research suggests. Yes, there is no magic pill.
Now, for the side plank muscles. Yes, obliques and lats are some of the prime movers in a side plank, but they alone are not going to be muscles directly responsible for moving the spine back to center. If you just focus on lats and obliques working you’ll end up with extreme muscle strength discrepancy in your back. You’ve got to focus on smaller, spinal muscles that have a direct line of pull on the spine (like traps and rhomboids). I’ve had many Schroth practitioners who’ve reached out to me privately agreeing with my stance. The way I suggest is in Schroth’s original book.
That being said, we need more research that is pushed out the the public on exercises that help scoli that people can understand because obviously the mass of the scoli world is hungry for it.
Blessings,
Erin
Mimi says
Hi Erin – First off I just love your website, videos, and social media pages. Thank you! Question: I am working with a Schroth PT & have seen much improvement in my mid and low back pain. I have a left thoracic/right lumber curve. The one thing I continue to struggle with is neck pain on convex side. My PT said that by “strengthening the deep neck flexor muscles and rotaters/postural muscles,” it could help my neck a lot and cause those overactive convex muscles to flare up less. He’s given me a combo of Schroth exercises plus stuff he says is more traditional PT – specifically Most of the stuff for my neck, as he says Schroth doesn’t focus much on neck strengthening. All of that makes sense, except for one thing – he said we need to strengthen the rotators/postural muscles on my convex side. Shouldnt that be the opposite, or at least maybe strengthen both sides? He’s said on a few occasions that the convex muscles are weak and weaker than the concave. Thanks for your input.
Erin Myers says
Hi Mimi,
Thank you for your kind words. I’m so glad you’ve found help and relief from your Schroth PT. The neck is a very complicated area, especially when scoli is involved. I have been struggling, and trying out many different methods on myself (and then trying them on clients) over the last few years because I haven’t found any simple fixes. First off, try what your PT gave you, and simply see how you feel in a week or a month. You’ll know if they’re right for you by how you feel. Hopefully they are a quick fix. I personally haven’t found strengthening exercises to be helpful for myself in my neck. They just lock down my entire spine more and cause headaches. I have found relief in my neck by releasing muscles in my pelvis area and then that releases muscles in my neck, due to the cranial/sacral connection. I also get manual release work on my neck and in my mouth by skilled therapists that offers some relief. I do lots of mobility work in my jaw, neck, shoulder girdle, and upper thoracic. I’ve also been exploring the ocular, vestibular, and neurological connections here and have found relief in my neck by doing exercises for those areas. I’ll give exercises for those areas hopefully within the year when I’ve solidified on that research, but if you can navigate down that area on your own with a therapist, go for it. The neck is a tough area for many with scoli, so take new exercises and concepts slowly and let your body tell you how it feels. Great job being proactive with your scoli.
Blessings,
Erin
Mimi says
Thank you so much Erin! When you say you do mobility work in the jaw, neck, shoulder girdle, and upper thoracic, does mobility Work mean stretching? Also, do you release the pelvic area on your own, or do you have a massage therapist do that? I look forward to seeing the exercises associated with the ocular/vestibular, and neurological connections when you solidify your research in those areas.
Erin Myers says
Hi Mimi,
The mobility work I do consists of both me doing exercises that include working on increasing my range of movement in the affected joints and having my manual therapists mobilize them passively for me. As I have for many people around the world, I’m happy to do a virtual lesson with you that you can record. Then you’ll have your own personalized scoli movement video you can do for your locked up joints. Feel free to email me through the contact page of this site if you’d like more info on that.
Blessings,
Erin
Mallory says
Hi, I have neck pain too and have been in Schroth for 6 plus months. One side of my neck on the convex side still hurts very often. Have you ever heard of anyone trying Botox Injections in the neck, just to calm things down until PT has a chance to address the pain?
Erin Myers says
Hi Mallory,
I’m sorry you’re having neck pain. Yes, I have heard of people doing Botox for neck pain. I have a scoli client who’s struggled with migraines for decades. She stated doing Botox for it a few years ago, and they also injected it into the entire neck area. Not only has it decreased her migraines but it’s also decreased her scoli neck pain. Interestingly, I saw that veterinarians used Botox to help heal a shark with scoliosis by injecting it into the convex side of the shark’s curve. Within a few months the scoli was healed, because the concave muscles were forced to work. I know we aren’t animals, but it was a really interesting thing to see. Lastly, I’m also happy to do a virtual lesson with you that you can record so I can teach you mobility exercises for your neck to decrease the pain. If you’re interested you can contact me through the contact page of this site.
Blessings,
Erin
Jennie Maynard says
Hi. I am also a Schroth P.T. and I have 2 thoughts.
1) I have never thought of the thoracic convex side as beefier. I have thought that the ‘apparent’ muscle hypertrophy is generally explained by muscle and other soft tissues resting on significantly rotated ribs. If derotation can be achieved with exercise, improved symmetry occurs.
2) Interestingly, I have found that almost everyone with scoliosis has a weak right gluteus medius. For degenerative left lumbar scoliosis – or adolescent onset scoliosis of the Lehnert-Schroth 4C classification – where in either case, there is most often a shift of the hips to the right, strengthening the right glut. medius would assist with the hip shift to the left, create balance, and likely some benefit.
I teach mainly classic Schroth exercises for my clients, but I do teach basic core exercises as needed (I have been a Back Care P.T. for > 30 years). Sometimes I include a modified side plank on the convex thoracic side, not specifically because of what it does for the scapular stabilizers, but for what it does for a weak right glut. medius.
Little story…one of my clients came with a new XRay in which her thoracolumbar curve was dramatically improved. I said, “so, were you shifting your hip in this film?” Quietly, so that her very
relieved mother couldn’t hear, she whispered, “Yes, I did”. Hip shift is huge for some of our clients.
Erin Myers says
Jennie,
Thank you for you comments. I too have seen glute med weakness, and have it myself. Last week I actually bought a pair of MBT shoes to help my glute med’s fire while I’m on my feet teaching throughout the day. I woke up this morning with some tired glute med muscles (specifically right) because I found out how to work them during my every day life. Woo hoo for scoli glute med’s getting stronger! Keep loving on the scoli community.
Blessings,
Erin
John p says
I have 22 or so degree lumber , spine is about an inch off at most severe point , hurts all the time , right leg goes numb sitting in wrong position , had surgery at 18 , they pulled the rod out later , now 57, after 48 years of athletics , weights , football , martial arts , yoga, I am fit and limber , still hips are out of alignment , so read the article from researches and started planking convex down for 4 weeks , then switched to concave side down After reading your article. Back started hurting massively after 2 weeks , switched back to convex down. Hypothesis , building core on concave side began pushing curve further to convex side , side plank convex down seems to push curve toward center by strengthen of core on that side. Best to all
John p says
addendum , so hypothesis would seems to suggest ‘pulling’ of spine not a factor but instead increase of core on convex side is a push . Also seems that location , severity of curve and god knows what else may be a factor , since I never got my md or my ba I could be wrong , wouldn’t be the first time won’t be the last . Stay in the fight scoliosis suffers , no matter how much or hurts, how far you fall , no matter how dark it gets you are never out of the fight
Erin Myers says
Muscles pull on bones, they don’t push. When focusing on using muscles to help scoliosis, you must figure out what muscles and fascia are too short (tight) that could be pulling bones off of center and release those. You then must figure out what muscles can pull the spine into correct alignment, which depend on your precise scoliosis. There are a myriad of reasons why the spine ended up in the condition it’s in, but if you’re focusing on exercise as a form of therapy, you must analyze pulling of muscle and fascia. Blessings, Erin
Erin Myers says
If you’ve had spinal fusion surgery you should NOT be doing a side plank in an attempt to move your spine, it’ll send you back into surgery. Years ago, a choice was made that your spine should be fused. From that point on, your goal is to stabilize your spine IN THAT POSITION. Regardless of if you have the hardware in your back still or not, you still must stabilize your spine and not force it to move. Exactly what vertebra are fused in your back? Is your spine fused into your pelvis? Is your lumbar spine fused? I need more info on your first fusion surgery to comment about your pelvis and leg numbness. Blessings, Erin
john p says
Hi Erin ,
Looks like the apex is t12. really not to sure where it is fused since the surgery was done 39 years ago. Not down to the pelvis I am pretty sure.
To tell you the truth, I am not to worried about hurting my back, I have
engaged in all manner of radical exercise including heavy squats, bent rows
and been kicked and punched all over including ribs ,back , head,
nose , ear , eye , tooth (pretty much everywhere )during a long but not very illustrious martial arts career.
As an aside, for those who care to read my dribble, bent rows are a god-send.
They work by bending over at the waist and pulling a straight bar into your waist.
This exercise serves to build the spinus erectors and with the newly developed
strength reduces pain and adds to back support dramatically. I have been doing this
exercise 38 years.
Here is the thing, I have an x-ray of L5 thru T9 only..
The x-ray shows the quadratus lumborum on the convex side as being almost a vertebrae shorter than its counterpart on the concave side.
This muscle is stretched on the concave side just about at the apex of the curve. So I am assuming that as the curve formed it pulled this longer muscle into its stretched position on the concave side while shortening this muscle on the convex side.
I went to a chiropractor years ago, they tried to move the whole mess to no avail.
Years ago, I began lifting weights with my neck on a neck machine where
one sits and pushes forward, then pushes sideways and then pushes back.
I started with 5 pounds and a few weeks later I was up to 45 pounds (young and strong).
I soon started waking up at night choking. and unable to breath, I almost passed
out several times. My then wife said I was blue.
I went to a sleep doctor who diagnosed the problem as overdeveloped neck
muscles impeding breathing. I stopped the exercise and sleep returned to normal.
My point is that muscles do in fact when developed and enlarged, push against surrounding internal structures. In this case my neck muscles began pushing against and constricting my trachea impeding the air flow.
So, this is where my hypothesis comes from whereby, increasing the size of the quadratus lumborum and other core muscles via side plank on the convex side to match those of the concave side might in my opinion move the spine more toward center. This also may be the secret to the results reported by researchers at Columbia.
If we take a look at the mechanics of the side plank and the muscles affected, we see that
the muscles on the down facing side are the main focus of that exercise . With this in mind,
it appears to follow that the pain I experienced subsequent to performing the exercise concave side down was the result of increased strength of core muscles on the concave side , probably increasing the size of those muscles and as in the previous neck example, moving the curve more off center based on increased girth or, as others have suggested , pulling the spine toward concave side creating more curve.
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Either way, I needed lots of ibuprophen for a few days after doing side plank concave side down.
Best wishes John
Erin Myers says
Hi John,
Thanks for your long reply. Since you don’t know exactly where your fusion goes to, I would not attempt to do exercises to move your spine. It’s wonderful (and slightly amazing) that you’ve been able to do all the physical movements you’ve done over the past few decades without breaking a rod. I’ve had many people come to me after they broke their rods doing movements that you’ve described. I don’t want you to be thrown into surgery to fix a broken rod.
OK, let’s talk core muscles real quick. The core anatomically doesn’t move the spine or any part of the body. The core is the transverses abdominis, lumbar multifidus, pelvic floor muscles, and diaphragm. It stabilizes your lumbar spine and pelvis and does not move you. The QL is not a core muscle. It’s a secondary stabilizing muscle (forced to attempt to stabilize the spine when the core doesn’t engage) and also a moving muscle. It’s the “hip hiker”. It’s deep into the body as well. X-rays don’t show muscle, so whoever looked at your spine must have seen that your ribs on one side are closer to your pelvis and then made the assumption that the QL is therefore shorter on that side. It may be the case, but that doesn’t mean that the QL pulled your spine to that position. If you’re fused, I’d be VERY CAREFUL about manipulating the QL during exercise to beef it up. If you are in fact fused in the lumbar spine, you don’t want to change the length of the QL. A choice was made by your surgeon that the QL will remain that length post-surgery for the rest of your life.
Last thing, don’t focus on your QL. That muscle causes much pain in people and my guess is overworked and too short for you (probably on both sides). Focus on your core and on your lumbar erector muscles and deeper stabilizing spinal muscles, making them even strength. If any exercise causes you pain, you need to stop! Remember you can’t stretch your back because it’s fused. I’m sure you are VERY tight in your torso. Regular massage or myofascial therapy would be very good for your back.
Hope this helps, Erin
Adiba narriman says
Hi I am pretty confused to which side to actually do the plank on as I’m not sure which would help with my scoliosis. Although my left rib cage seems more prominent than my right would that mean my spine is curving to the left? Also is it a side plank or a front plank. And also when will you exercises be out to help with scoliosis at home . Thank you
Erin Myers says
You, along with the rest of the world is confused. Truly, don’t waste your time on it unless a practitioner looks at your back and determines a side plank would help you. You can now view some of my exercises I suggest for scoli. On the shop page of SpiralSpine.com you’ll see that you can now rent the first installment of Scoliosis Education, which is where I show exercises for scoli. I’m currently working on getting it available in DVD form. Blessings, Erin
Oscar says
I have 19 degree scoliosis and I have been reading about the whole side plank to help better your scoliosis not completely fix it. Once I read the study referenced above I was excited to try it out but none of the articles mentioned what side to do the plank on they just wrote side plank helps with your explanation and details on what side to do the plank can’t to see if there even a slight imporvent anything would be awesome thanks for you article above helped me tons! Best wishes.
Erin Myers says
Hey Oscar, way to go on being proactive with wanting to help your scoliosis. It’s wonderful that your curve is small, being only at 19 degrees. As you’ve read from this article (and the mounds of comments and other posts I’ve written on the side plank theory) I’m simply not a big fan of this. I’d rather get with someone who can look at your back while doing it to 1. see if it will help your back and if it will 2. help you determine at that point which side to do it on. There simply isn’t a quick answer as to which side for you to do it on. If you don’t want to see someone you can feel the muscles in the concave part of your scoli to see if the muscles are firing and test it on both sides of the side plank. Hope this helps. Blessings, Erin
Joe says
Hi, please reconsider your hypothesis here as it would be a travesty to spread misinformation. In your own article, you mention muscles pulling bones, not pushing them. Thus, the concave side must be stronger than the convex as the muscles pull the vertebrae together. To strengthen the other side (which can appear bigger due to rotation and compression causing the muscles to bulge out), it must be pointed towards the floor – similar to how a plank strengthens ones abs and a bridge ones back. It’d be great to update this info so people aren’t actually making their backs worse. Cheers.
Erin Myers says
Hi Joe, thanks for the comment. Research shows that idiopathic scoliosis is actually not caused by muscles that are too short (hence the short concave muscles don’t cause the scoli). There are other factors. One theory is that the physical spinal chord grows at a slower rate than the bones around it during a growth spurt, therefore the spinal chord is too short for the vertebral chain. The muscles then adapt around that. I worked on two scoliosis clients this morning, both with severe lumbar curves. My hands were all over their lumbar spinal muscles to give feedback for the concave muscles so they could fire. Regardless how much we argue over which hand should go down (or whether we should do side planks at all for scoli!), the concave muscles need length and strength. They need some extra love and attention. Blessings, Erin
David says
My 87-year-old mother is looking at surgery for her scoliosis. Since I have the same condition, only not as severe, I am very very interested in long-term exercise therapy to keep me from having to accept the surgical solution. Thank you very much for clarifying the work of these researchers in the study session, and for making it a point to make the exercise solution viable.
Erin Myers says
Hi David,
I first must ask why your 87-year-old mother is looking at having surgery for her scoli? If it’s to get her out of pain, I highly doubt that will happen. Surgery doesn’t promise to get anyone out of pain. I don’t mean to scare you, but I bet there’s a high likelihood she won’t make it out of surgery. Some teenage girls don’t make it out of surgery (you just don’t hear about those cases in the news). She could stroke out in the middle of surgery at her age. There’s a million things that could happen. Let’s find a great movement practitioner she can see instead, to help her live out her years with less pain (and less life-threatening surgeries).
Now, onto you. If you haven’t watched the Starting Point Series (an icon at the top of the page) I’d highly recommend you do so. I mention key words to search for when finding a practitioner in your town. Lastly, I’ll be starting webinars where I show how I work with my scoli clients in the next month or two. You won’t want to miss those. Make sure you’re on the newsletter list so you know when those happen and can gain info on a long-term exercise therapy for your scoli.
Great job being proactive with your (and your mom’s) scoli.
Blessings,
Erin
Dijan says
Hey Erin the left lower back muscles are way stronger than the right.That is the convex side right ? So should i do the side planks on the left or right arm? Thank you in advance
Erin Myers says
If the left low back is stronger, it’s the convex side. That side needs to be down, meaning your upper right curve’s concave is down. Left hand needs to be down. Make sense?
Erin
Nicky says
My curve is on the RIGHT so does that mean my right arm is facing down or do i put my left arm down?? Can i have a simply yes or no because i dont do well with explanations lol
Erin Myers says
Nicky, you’re pretty funny. Here’s your simple answer. The research says do it with the right hand down for you. I’d say either do it with your left hand down or not at all. Frustrating and confusing, right? I’ve got some free webinars coming out with exercises for scoli you can do at home. I hope to have them out in a month or two, so hold tight. Make you’re on my email list so you know when the free webinar is coming out. Blessings, Erin
Tina Brown says
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Ivan says
Hi,
I have scoliosis and I might have misunderstood it but if your right side is the convex side and you do it on your left side facing down(concave facing down) then to keep your body in that position its your left lateral flexors who do the job which to me seems counter intuitive as you are strenghtening your left side which would then pull harder your spine to the left and make the curvature on the right bigger but I’m confused so I’m probably wrong. Could you clear this up for me please?
Thanks
Erin Myers says
We need to define two things: 1. what vertebra are affected by the right scoli curve? and 2. exactly what “lateral flexors” are you referencing to? Let’s assume it’s an upper right curve where the apex of the curve is about T8. If that’s the case, the mid traps are going to have a stronger force acting on on the apex of the curve than the spinal extensors (which I’m assuming that’s what you’re referencing when you say lateral flexors). The left mid traps will be able to pull the right curve directly to the left and be the target moving muscles to fire. That is why the left hand would go down on the floor. Did I make the gray a bit more black and white for you? Blessings, Erin
Stephanie Tencer says
I have a c-curve and my concave side is on the left. My rib cage naturally shifts to the right unless I adjust it. If I do the plank position with concave (left) side down and raise my right arm up as is generally done in this pose, it exacerbates my curve. If I do it with my top arm extending the flank of my body I can consciously extend the shorter side. With the arm extending up, I find it more effective with my convex side towards the floor. Essentially, I use the lifted arm to pull the protruding ribs into the midline and fill/lengthen the corresponding short side. Do you find the positioning of the arm makes a difference in your work?
Erin Myers says
Hi Stephanie, I don’t use the side plank as a corrective exercise in my work for my scoli or my clients’. I would say that the positioning of your top arms could definitely change the pull of the exercise and help you come out of the concave side depending on exactly how your scoli presents itself and where the arm is placed. Keep the awareness up of bringing the ribs to neutral (or even pushing the ribs past neutral – even better) but be careful of doing a side plank only on one side for extended periods of time because muscle tone could very easily become very uneven from right to left side. -Erin Myers
Stephanie Tencer says
thx, Erin. I always do it on both sides in my practice, but I change the position of my top arm accordingly. For me that seems to work quite well (but I also have a comprehensive practice that includes many other things in addition to plank)… we’re each so unique :). Thanks for your response!
Erin Myers says
Stephanie, It sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders in regards to the side planks. The more body knowledge you have the better you’ll be able to work on your scoli and your clients’. Keep it up!
disqusbro says
I have the same type of scoliosis as the degenerative patients, though i’m not at the age range they are, in that case which side would you recommend doing the plank on ?
Erin Myers says
I’d be careful doing this exercise, even if you supposedly have the same curve. Age and the root cause of the actual scoli (degenerative is based in osteoporosis where your does not seem to be that way) plays a huge roll in this. I’d be wary. Find a well-trained movement practitioner (like Pilates) in your town who you can book one private with so they can give you exercises for your scoli.
Erin
Arturo says
Which is the background of Pilates practitioners? Are them physiatrists as professionals of other scoliosis methods??
Erin Myers says
Pilates instructors are movement practitioners. Look at http://www.Pilates.com to get more of a background of Pilates. Not only am I a teacher of Pilates but I’ve also been a teacher trainer of Pilates for almost 10 years with the company Balanced Body, which is the link I typed above.
Arturo says
I think it should to be done as the study says, that is over convex side. The way to see if it is useful or not is to see if the curve decrease during that pose. If decrease then is sure because muscles activity, but if it we do it over the other side, we cannot be sure if decrease the curve because muscle activity or because gravity force. As Schroth book says, sleeping over the concave side decrease the curve.
Erin Myers says
Just throwing this out there – the Schroth therapist I see has me sleeping with my concave side down, not my convex side down. As if we all needed another wrench to be thrown into this conversation! There is simply not a magic pill (or one magic exercise) to fit all scoli cases.
Arturo says
So you are saying that before after x-rays are wrong?
Yes, your concave side down decrease your curve, you not need any muscular activation, the same I suppose can not be said about the convex side.
Arturo says
‘There I found that contrary to the recent report, the exercise is supposed to be done with the CONCAVE side of the curvature in the rib cage aiming down towards the floor.’
I have the Schroth book and I don’t see where they said this. May you say me where did you see this?
Erin Myers says
page 111, Fig. 270, the picture in the bottom left corner of the page. I quote from the wording, “Scoliosis: The concave side faces the floor.” http://www.amazon.com/Three-Dimensional-Treatment-Scoliosis-Physiotherapeutic-Deformities/dp/0914959026/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1455575280&sr=8-1&keywords=three-dimensional+treatment+for+scoliosis Three-Dimensional Treatment For Scoliosis by Christa Lehnert-Schroth, PT
Arturo says
Are you sure is figure 270? I have the Spanish version so number of pages are different, but of figures should to be the same and I don’t see that,
Erin Myers says
Here it is.
Arturo says
Thanks, is really strange in the Spanish version there’s not nothing like this.
Erin Myers (2) says
Hmmm. Yes, very odd. I don’t have an answer for that.
Arturo says
If Schroth is doing since around a century the Side Plank over the concave side, it’s a proof it doesn’t work over this side, otherwise we have thousands of amazing reductions and never was a Schroth study showing it.
Erin Myers says
I don’t have enough information to come to that conclusion. The thing is that this is just one tiny exercise in a massive book of exercises specifically for people with scoli. And, the Schroth method HAS HAD thousands of amazing reductions and TONS of research to back it up. Schroth has never claimed that one exercise is a magic pill for scoli. Actually, Schroth strongly states that each different kind of scoli needs DIFFERENT exercises for successful curve reduction. Interestingly, if you see under the heading in the picture I posted above it says, “omit in the case of four-curve scoliosis.” I have four-curve scoli. There’s a reason my body doesn’t like side planks as a rehab exercise. Most degenerative scoli cases are a big “c” curve, or three-curve scoli. That’s possibly one reason why older people have had success with this exercises…despite what side it’s done on.
Erin Myers says
I’m not saying the X-rays are wrong. Here are my 2 major issues (which I state in my blog post):
1. They did not just tell their patients to do a side plank, which most people reading this blog are attempting to do. They taught them the exercise, made sure they knew how to correctly do it for their scoli, AND followed up with them to AGAIN make sure they were doing correctly. ALSO, there were 7 different modifications to the side plank exercise, all of which will have different muscles firing. So in fact, they are not doing a simple side plank, but 7 different variations of a side plank. How would a normal person know what to do?
2. Two different groups of scoli were lobbed into this very small study; young idiopathic patients and older degenerative scoli patients. The origin of those two groups of scoli are VERY different and those bodies will respond VERY differently to exercise. The study was very flawed by one particularly high curve from the degenerative group (and most people on this post have idio scoli). If you look at the study, many of the idio scoli people didn’t get better and one patient actually got worse by doing this.
Those are the main reasons why I think this research should be thrown out. There are too many variables, so I don’t trust it. I’d love for the research to be done again with stricter parameters.
Arturo says
Is true and very much strange so many degenerative cases something I think too many less often than IS and all of them are the only really big curves. Anyway I see in the study a 43º improving to around 25º, it says explicitly about a 49.2% reduction case.
Dr. Loren Fishman is in Facebook, I have send him PM and he responded me, is true what you said about some difference among different cases, but the exercise was always done with concave side of the main curve down, is what the study says. Certainly to get a reduction need to change the structure, so what is needed is to change the length of the muscles, not just only make them stronger and of course convex side muscles need to be shorter, Schroth also says this and also says that concave side muscles need to be longer. It seems to be a fact that strengthening a muscle makes it shorter, so if it is done over the convex side and THE CURVE HAS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THIS POSE (I don’t know if this happens) then we may think we are strengthening the convex side and making longer the concave side .
Erin Myers says
You’re right. Some people have had a curvature decrease using a form of a side plank pose with the convex side down that the study proved, and some did not, which the study also showed. Actually, some increased in their curvature. I’m not putting my money in any camp with ANY side plank being a magic pill, because if nothing else, this little study shows that NOT ALL curves showed a decrease while doing the side plank with the convex side down.
Arturo says
Surely there is none method 100% effective. I cannot imagine a 120º degenerative case, except it would be an extreme osteoporosis case, but then vertebras should to be extremely deformed so only a very much effective method may achieve such reduction. There’s a SEAS study only about IS showing good reductions in adults, buy anyway nothing is so impressive like this study. If it’s not a fraud (is strange so many and extreme degenerative cases) it must to be understood what exactly is doing this exercise in the body.
Erin Myers says
I would agree with those conclusions. I would also say that there needs to be more clear research, with precise exercises done that can be repeated at home without the supervision of an exercise specialist. The different types of scoli must be broken down in the research and cannot be clumped together. It’s too confusing and clear conclusions cannot be reached. I’d also add that if research desires to show that an exercise needs to be done unilaterally (only on one side), that both side must be tested so it’s clear as to which side actually produces results. Arturo, I think we can finally agree upon those conclusions. 😉 I hope other parents of kids with scoli around the world see you as an admirable example of how to fight for their child’s scoli. Bless you, Arturo, and your daughter. -Erin
Arturo says
Thanks Erin, you are a good, passionate and also beautiful woman really.
Unfortunately science is in deapers so we cannot deduce what is possible to do or not. In an adult the cause of the curve, the only actual cause is the tissues deformation, gravity force leads to progression but only because tissues are not normal, so the only one possible solution is to alter those tissues in the right way, but we don’t know how much may be altered in a natural way, how much may muscles be shortened, ligaments be strengthened, discs regenerated..
We knew before this study that some significant modifications are possible since people using Spinecor for adults with reduction in brace holds the reduction after removing the brace for a while.. The only way we have to know the true is through these studies.. ‘Only one’ side plank seems something really logic, I have heard recognized authorities saying that cannot work but they never said why, I realized in all this time that nobdy around the world has enough knowledge about scoliosis to say what may be and what no.
Erin Myers says
Spiral Spine has migrated away from the Disqus platform for discussions. Please go directly to spiralspine.com to comment on blog posts from now on. We are using a new platform for discussions. The direct link for this blog post is https://spiralspine.com/side-plank-theory-scoliosis/ . Thanks Arturo and I look forward to chatting with you on my website. -Erin Myers
patrick says
I agree, Arturo.
disqusbro says
So I’d it curved to the left you’d sleep on the right side?
Arturo says
I think it should to be done as the study, says that is over convex side. The way to see if it is useful or not is to see if the curve decrease during that pose. If decrease then is sure because muscles activity, but if it we do it over the other side, we cannot be sure if decrease the curve because muscle activity or because gravity force. As Schroth nook says, sleeping over the concave side decrease the curve.
Corinne Waters says
I will say from experience, that your theory holds true, as I had my “s” curve daughter perform yoga exercises with this in mind and her degree went from 10 to 5 degrees in a few months. It just made more sense to me and we thought the exercises really could only help her strengthen her overall spine anyway. After a few months there was a re-check at her doctor’s and it’s down to almost a straight spine, despite her going through another 3.5 inches growth spurt in one year, and her pediatrician asked what we were doing. He said he was intrigued and he was very happy with these results, too. She is doing right side planks on her concave side and stretches on her convex side, along with cat stretches, bridges and downward dogs, and it worked so well we were surprised and elated and goes to show you that there is still a LOT of research to be done about this !
Erin Myers says
Corinne, I’m so happy to hear that your daughter was able to decrease her curves to almost nothing with just exercise. Way to go!!!!
Blessings,
Erin
Gouri says
Hi Corinne,
I have a 12 year old daughter with moderate ‘S’ curve. We are very much opposed to surgery and are trying alternative treatments. The success of your daughter’s correction is heartening. Just to be clear, is she doing side planks on her upper/lower concave side ? Also are you doing anything else as support along with yoga such as nutritional supplements ? Could you please list anything else that she may be doing to reverse the curve. Thanks a bunch.
Corinne Waters says
Yes, we concentrated planks on her concave/ ‘hollow’ side, which in her case was her thoracic /upper spine. ((Her lumbar curve was prettyninsignificant so we focused on her larger curve.) No supplements, as she has an excellent, healthy diiet. I strongly suggest reading as many yoga for scoliosis sites as you can. I am including the link to a video which we founded her exercises on and i found extremely useful and informative. To that, we added bridges, cat stretches, supermen, and her favorite lying stretch, when you lay down flat on yougr back and bring the bent leg on you convex side acrros your body to touch the floor on the concave side, to stretch out the convex side. Since the curve is pretty insignificant now, i had her switch to exercises that focus on both sides instead of targeting one, just to keep everything in line. When we started, she was faithfully doing the exercises 5x per week, as she had no desire to enter middle school with a brace (which i read were a temporary ‘band aid’ anyway) now we do strsight yoga 2x per week to keep it in check.. i hope this helps! Here is that link https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9TWtrCmzaOw Good luck to you! You’re right in being proactive with this. Educate yourself as much as you can.
Gouri says
Thank you very much for your reply, Corinne. We will practice the exercises you mentioned and yes, I will read up some more about Yoga for Scoliosis. Hoping for the best !
tedi says
also, as per the study:
– strengthening the quadratus lumborum and paraspinal muscles of the convex side works to equalize and balance the muscular tensions that produce and sustain degenerative and adolescent idiopathic scoliosis. A small variation to the Iyengar version of the side-plank,Vasisthasana has proven to be a reliable way to accomplish this in our studies so far
– Some scoliotic curves are a simple “C,” generally in the lumbar or lumbar and thoracic spine. Others are “S” or inverted “S” in their shape, and a few are triple or even quadruple curves. In our first study of 25 patients we concentrated on the lowest curve, only using Vasisthasanaand only with the convex side downward, but found that the upper curves also got smaller, but not as quickly, and not as much. Some researchers believe that the upper curves can be compensatory, which would explain this effect. We are nevertheless working now with other postures and having somewhat better results with the upper curves at this point. The more complex curves require individual analysis.
Erin Myers says
Tedi,
Thanks for your post. Great information. Please keep everyone at Spiral Spine informed of your movement findings as you do more research.
Blessings,
Erin
Erin Myers says
Hi Ted,
I sure will. I’m in the process of revamping the entire site and plan on having a section where all the scoli research I have will be accessible for everyone to read on their own.
Blessings,
Erin
tedi says
the research is about the lumbar curve which is actually the lower curve in S shape scoliosis, therefore the convex side of the lumbar curve is on the same side with the concave side of the thoracic curve. Thus there is no contradiction doing the plank exercise on the convex side of the lumbar curve as the study states.
Dave Bishop says
Hello tedi, i am really very surprised that no one has replied to this comment because it truly solves the big controversy here (or lack there of). If you read this Erin please weigh in with your thoughts. Study says lumbar convex down for the plank. Erin says NOooo! Thoracic concave must be down! THEY ARE THE SAME THING IN AN S CURVE! YOUR EXCERCISE IS THE SAME THING. It seems to me what the confusion is that in almost all of Erins posts she will say concave down but does not refer to whether that is lumbar or thoracic. Just my 2 cents. Dave
Erin Myers says
Hi Tedi and Dave,
Sorry for my delay in responding to Tedi’s post. His comment slipped through the cracks. By no means did I intentionally not respond. I haven’t read the side plank research in some time (because I think it’s a joke and have been reading other scoli movement research that’s pretty awesome…I’ll share it, don’t worry). That being said, I’m pretty sure the side plank research was aimed at cuing just the thoracic curve. They’re saying that the thoracic convex side should be down (meaning thoracic concave and lumbar convex is up, not the lumbar concave).
Tedi, you’re right in saying that the lumbar concave should be up. Yes…meaning that the thoracic concave should be down. Tedi, we are saying the same thing, but I think you’ve misinterpreted the research about what side is down. You want thoracic concave down and lumbar concave up. The research says the opposite.
The lumbar concave is too short and not strong enough. That side needs to up be. I prefer to do regular Pilates side lying leg work with the lumbar concave up and a rolled up mat under the convex lumbar side on the floor to work this area. It forces the lumbar curve to open up over the rolled up yoga mat. Then, in that long, stretched state, I’ll do different side lying leg exercises (up and down, forward and back, circles etc) to get the muscles in the concave area to fire and build up strength and girth. I do this in my workout video Hard Core Scoli.
Hope this helps guys! Nice job working through all this.
Blessings,
Erin
Dave Bishop says
Thank you so much for your reply Erin. I wasn’t meaning to speak about you without addressing you directly. Lol. I will have to pull up the original study to confirm as this is sort of hearsay that I picked from another site talking about the study. Here is what was said. (Here is a direct quote from the author to further clarify: ” The side plank should be done daily on one side, only with the convex side of the lumbar curve downward, for as long as possible each time.”) So i will try and confirm this.
Don’t get me wrong I am not buying this whole study, at all. You will not offend me by proving it is a load of crap. I have been forced to be a skeptic about any suggested treatments for scoliosis because there are so many purveyors of success by pseudo scientific practitioners out there, that if I followed them all I would be broke for sure. There are two things that motivate me. Pain reduction and scientific proof. Are you thinking that not only were the participants doing the exercise incorrectly but that results were fabricated? Because if you are not thinking they were fabricated here is my thoughts. If that study can prove that even ONE single person maintained correction in the 30-40% by doing anything, that is far more than any other treatment method can provide. Evidence for curve reduction is pretty much non existent out there. As far as I am concerned if the outcomes were not fabricated they must be on to something if they are showing reduction in an S curve. C curves to me are far less complicated by things like rotation and there is some existing evidence of ability to reduce these curves by postural improvements, leg lifts etc. So if you think that any treatment modality you are working on, or are even aware of are better at reducing curves, to me, they hold absolutely no value unless backed by radio graphic evidence. Do you have any evidence for them? Testimonials and anecdote on there own can verify alien abductions, proof of bigfoot, evidence for the loch ness monster and so on. Scour the net and you can find a testimonial for just about anything. Please don’t get me wrong Erin, I do not mean to personally attack you at all. I am glad someone is out there chasing these answers. We need you! The reason I am quizzing you is not to defend this study, but to disprove it if it is bogus. I just want to establish for certain there is no validity to it. If the results are not fabricated to me there is something to investigate here regardless if anyone thinks the exercise was done incorrectly (which it may be possible that you think they are being done correctly). Anyway lend me your thoughts. Thanks for your response! Dave
Thank you!
Erin Myers says
Hi Dave,
Convex of the lumbar curve down is what I’m saying, so the other site you’re looking at is agreeing with what I’m saying, and disagreeing with the study. I do have X-ray proof showing that how I work with clients decreases Cobb Angles in some cases. Actually, I have an email sitting in my inbox right now from a mom showing the X-rays of her daughter from a few months ago. In a 10 month time period of me working with her, the daughter’s main Cobb Angle went from 75 to about 60 degrees. And for the record, we never once did a side plank 😉
Enough of that, I’ve got what you really want…research proof showing that movement helps. You said it wasn’t out there, yes it is. This is from the original version of The Beautiful Scoliotic Back. I’m working on putting all this info into a new book called Analyzing Scoli. I hope to have it out in the next year or so, just depends on how much downtime I have with my heavy scoli client load. The info below is a drop in the bucket to the amount of research that’s actually out there. I left this information as a comment to a man, many comments ago on this page:
Medical research idiopathic scoliotic findings
• Rotational stiffness is related to the severity of curve in frontal plane 2
• The more rigid the curve, the more likely it is to worsen 4
• Muscles weaker on concave side of thoracic spine 7
• Weaker when rotating towards concavity of spinal curve 5
• Asymmetry between lumbar paraspinals and obliques 5, 6
• Causes postural alterations in orientation of head, shoulders, scapulas, pelvis, and rotation of body segments in horizontal plane 9
• Characterized by decrease in standing stability 9
• Surgery reduces frontal plane curvature and only minimally helps with axial rotation, so rib hump can persist after surgery 2
• Results of exercise to correct muscle asymmetry are equal to or better than bracing 6
• Scientific community gives very little consideration to physical exercise as a form of therapy for scoliosis 10
• Physical exercise important during growth to delay or prevent need for bracing and/or keep scoliosis under 30 degrees 10
• Physical exercise positively influences breathing function, strength, and postural balance 10
• Muscle deficiency can be corrected with specific torso rotation and lumbar extensor strengthening 6
• Frontal plane curvature corrects in response to lateral bending, but axial rotation does not 2
• Ribcage side-shift exercises can stabilize curvature progression in adolescents 4
• Functional scoliosis caused by tension of muscles surrounding the spine 1
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1. Azegami, H., Murachi, S., Kitoh, J., Ishida, Y., Kawakami, N., Makino, M. (1998). Etiology of idiopathic scoliosis. Clinical Orthopaedics and Related Research. 357:229-236.
2. Beuerlein, M., Raso, V.J., Hill, D.L., Moreau, M.J., Madooh, J.K. (2003). Changes in alignment of the scoliotic spine response to lateral bending (abstract). Spine. 28(7):693-698.
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patrick says
Hey Erin, I hope you are doing well. I wanted to comment on a few things mentioned on this post. I want you to know that in no way am I lashing out at you. I just want you to take a few things into thought.
With the side plank, the convex side DOES need to be facing the floor. In order to correct or decrease worsening, contrary to what you believe, or have been told, this actually does promote a straighter spine, especially if you exaggerate the pose. If you perform the side plank the wrong way (concave facing the ground), you are promoting and further increasing the concavity, which is completely opposite of the intended effect. The researchers found significant results because they DID the exercises in the correct fashion. These researchers no what they are doing and have an understanding of the kinesiology of the spine.
The researcher are correct when they say that the longer/stretched extensors are the areas that need to be strengthen (hence, convex side facing the ground with a side plank). And yes, the point IS to make the long side stronger which coincides with that muscle shortening. I don’t think you understand the purpose of these muscles.
The rhomboids should not even be a concern with this exercise. In the side plank position, the rhomboids shouldn’t be of a concern at all because they are not hardly working at all. The point of the side plank is to strengthen the core muscles and spinal lateral flexors, it has nothing to do with the trapezius or the rhomboids.
I don’t think you understand why the muscles on the convex side of a curve are beefier. It is is the rib cage causing the beefy appearance. Because of vertebral rotation, overtime, the ribs will create a rib-hump which will give the appearance that the muscles on the convex side are stronger. Here is a picture to help you understand: http://www.waltfritzseminars.com/blog/?p=839. Scroll down to view the superior view of the ribcage.
Erin, I have scoliosis. If I consciously straighten my spine and place my hands behind me on both sides of my vertebral column, I can physically feel where the once-was convex side is working to keep my spine straight. On the once-was concave side, the muscles are not tightened, which means they are not working nearly as hard as the once-was convex side. This, my friend, is why the side plank works when the convex side is placing down. I don’t think you quite understand what muscles are involved and how muscles are used during certain movements.
To anyone reading this comment, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not perform the exercise with the concave side down, you will only worsen the concavity. Erin, please do your own research study worthy of publication before telling your information-seeking readers to perform the complete opposite exercise of a study that has shown to have significant findings (proven results).
Erin Myers says
You’re fired up Patrick and so passionate about movement. I love it! I’m always up for a good conversation about a topic I know a lot about, so let’s get at it. This should be good!
As for the “proven results” comment you mentioned at the end, if you go through the actual research, that’s not the whole truth. The research is quite flawed, which I went through in my main post. That being said, let’s talk kinesiology and muscles.
My major issue with this whole “magic pill” side plank exercise is that no one does this exercise (or any exercise for that matter) correctly at home unless they’ve been taught it repeatedly with much correction, which yes did happen in this study. I don’t want to encourage ANYONE to really do this at home unless they’ve seen someone who’s given or “prescribed” this precise exercise for their precise scoli. I would agree with you that if this exercise was done with the thoracic convex side down for some people in a very exaggerated past midline fashion with correct modifications for their scoli and in great alignment that it could be beneficial for some people. If I did it for my scoli I would end up in psycho muscles spasms and it would make my specific scoli worse. But yes, kinetically and theoretically I would agree with you.
I know very well that there is vertebral rotation that is involved with all idiopathic curves. I battle it with my clients daily. It goes down the spine like a DNA double helix. Yes, in the convex portion of a thoracic curve the ribs protrude posteriorly (I hare the wording “rib hump”). Nice link that you posted in your comment by the way. Totally true and a good post. Anyways, the muscles are also beefier on that side than on the concave portion because they have been the workhorses that have been holding up the spine in that part of the curve for a long time. Yes, those extensor spinal muscles are long and are also overworked and beefy, yet need to be shortened. True. I do understand that the spinal extensors are what they are attempting to shorten by doing the side plank exercise, but in a side plank, the traps and rhomboids HAVE to work because that’s what connects the scapula (and hence arm) to the spine and you must stabilize yourself on your arm to do the side plank. In this exercise you cannot have some of those muscles work without the others. It’s kinetically impossible.
In most people with a thoracic convex curve to the right you can’t shorten the right spinal extensors first because the too short traps and rhomboids take over. It’s an evil little cycle. To get out of it, you must let the entire right thoracic convex side chill out (be that time, trigger point work, myofascial work, etc). You must, must, must strengthen the atrophied concave traps and rhomboids and shorten them. I would choose to strengthen them in a different way besides a side plank, but if correctly aligned a side plank will do the job. The atrophied concave spinal extensors also must be worked, but extremely carefully in a long state to help the workhorse convex spinal erectors not have to work so hard. The concave erectors have been locked short for a long time and have to be released and then strengthened in a long state.
As for the core work comment you made, there are many more efficient and effective ways to strengthen someone else core than a side plank, especially for someone with scoli. A side plank is not the only option.
Phew! That was a long reply. I’m very passionate about scoli and correct exercise and stand firm behind my position. Thanks for your comment a putting you passion down in writing.
Blessings,
Erin
patrick says
Thank you for the reply, Erin. I went back and read my comment, and good grief! I sounded so angry, I’m sorry for that, it was not reflected of what my tone actually was. Thank you, also, for your passion for the body and wellness.
Arturo says
It has very much sense! I believe that only people showing successful reduction cases may say to people suffering something so difficult to fix as scoliosis is, what to do or not to do.
mousam says
I find the article confusing where the author refers to right and left side. Wouldn’t it have been better to continue using convex and concave? I felt like the author was thinking about her own spine. In my case, the big beefy muscles (convex side) are on the left, so I had to try a second time to follow this. Then I gave up. It’s too difficult, frankly. The writer should revise this article without saying left and right and just stick with convex and concave. I will stop reading and just work with the concave side down (my left, not my right — I think).
Erin Myers says
Sorry for any confusion I may have caused you. One of the biggest challenges I face is attempting to simplify the extremely complex topic of scoliosis. With every curve there is a concave and a convex portion, yes, you are are correct. Forget left and right. Convex will be the muscularly beefier side, yes, again, you are correct. And, if you have a curve in your ribcage, the convex side will be closer to the shoulder blade.
I remember concave by thinking I’m inside of a cave, where it’s rounded over my head. I know it’s a weird way to think about it, but that mental picture has stuck through all these years and has been the only way for me to remember how to differentiate between the two. The shoulder blade on the atrophied side, the concave side, is farther away from the spine. Hence, those muscles need to be fire in order to pull the spine towards the shoulder blade.
Do NOT do the plank with the convex, the beefier side, down. That’s what the research says – and what I’m arguing NOT to do. It’s only making the beefier muscles stronger and pulling the spine farther away from center. You need to work the atrophied muscles to help pull the spine closer to the midline. The concave side needs to be down.
Blessings,
Erin
Kevin says
Hi Erin, I agree with you, but we also agree with the study. Why I’m saying this is because the study says:
“To understand why this yoga pose may help in sco- liosis, it is important to conceptualize the physics involved in creating scoliotic curves. A simplified analy- sis of how humans stand erect involves the symmetrical downward pull of the dorsal, abdominal, intercostal, and paraspinal muscles. Scoliosis, then, could be explained by asymmetry in the force these muscles exert on the spine. The spine will bend toward the stronger side, and thus, the muscles of the convex side may be weaker than their smaller-appearing counterparts on the concave side (Figure 5). We speculate that the side plank pose is useful for strengthening the convex side’s quadratus lumborum, iliopsoas, transverses abdominus, oblique, intercostal, and paraspinal musculature, which, in turn, might straighten the spine (Figure 5).”
Is clear that the authors made a mistake, calling convex what is concave. Or not?
Here you can find the ORIGINAL AND FULL RESEARCH: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4268609/pdf/gahmj.2013.064.pdf
Hoping you’ll answer me what about you think, after reading the full research.
Thanks, Kevin.
Erin Myers says
Hi Kevin,
I’ve read the full research MANY times, and I just don’t really like anything about it. No, I don’t think they have concave and convex mixed up in their theory, but research shows that with idiopathic scoliosis the muscles aren’t what initiate the scoliosis – other factors are (like hormonal imbalance, nutritional deficiencies, neurotransmitter imbalances, the dura and spinal chord physically being shorter than the bones of the spine, etc…) are what cause it. Muscles respond to the original cause that bent the spine. The research also doesn’t mention the role of the rhomboids and the trapezius muscles, which would act more like the wires on the Eiffel Tower than the Erectors of the spine because of their angle of pull.
-Erin
Charlotte says
In your photo of the “correct” way You are doing it exactly the way he said to!
Erin Myers says
Charlotte,
Ahhh, you’re starting to put some of the pieces together. Nice job. In the first study he put out he didn’t specify which curve he study was aimed at, therefore I assumed it was the major curve. He really only worked with lumbar major curve people (whom I am not, I’m thoracic major). With me putting my thoracic concave side down, it does put my lumbar convex side down. You’re correct. But, the study isn’t meant for thoracic major curves. Furthermore, there were so many different variations in his study, that we don’t actually know exactly what variations of the side plank exercise he was doing. Great job using your brain.
Erin
Frances says
I see this post is now a year old, but stumbled upon it this morning.
I am 20 years old and have S curve idiopathic scoliosis – the left side of my stomach has a straighter edge while my right side is curved inwards. Meaning my lower curve is concave.
I noticed it’s significantly more difficult for me to perform the side plank on the side when my lower concave curve is facing the floor, than the other way around. If I do it on that side, is there a chance my higher curve could be negatively affected? This was a great post, thank you!
Erin Myers says
Hi Frances, I just want to make sure I have this correct. It seems as thought you have a backwards “S” curve, with an upper right curve in your thoracic/rib cage area and a lower left curve in your lumbar spine area. Each curve has a concave and a convex portion, so it can be tricky when attempting to describe the curves correctly. If my interpretations of your curves is correct, then what hand is on the floor when the exercise is harder?
Blessings,
Erin
Frances says
Yes! I think I expressed it incorrectly.
It’s much harder when my right hand is on the floor, even though I’m right handed. When I’m on that side, my thoracic curve is convex towards the floor
Erin Myers says
Yeah, the hard thing is that there could be so many reasons that it’s harder with your right hand down. It’s most likely not going to help your upper curve, but obviously it’s helping some other under worked area of the body. There are simply too many variables, which is why I’m not a fan of the “magic pill” side plank exercise. Do what you feel is necessary, but be careful. Look at all the other posts about the side plank on SpiralSpine.com that I posted of people’s back who got worse doing it. If you continue to do it on that side, you’re going to want to measure your back with the scoliometer to make sure it’s not getting worse (Scoliometer by Spiral Spine in the iTunes App Store is what I use to track my clients’ back with. I have lots of blog posts about that too).
nancy says
I know this discussion is old, but I was doing some reading about this study online and found your site. I have a C shape convex to the right. I don’t know the degree or really much about it. I was diagnosed back in elementary school in the 80s then it was not spoken about ever again. I am trying to learn more about it now that I am in my 40s. I do yoga and while I don’t focus on only one pose (like plank) I do find yoga to be helpful. I have Ms. Elise Browning’s book (I have found it to be a good resource). I am interested in learning more about your take on it and how pilates might help strengthen my muscles and hold my spine in place. I will spend some more time poking around at your site. But if you happen to read this, could you tell me if there a list of practitioners on your site somewhere? I couldn’t find one. Thank you so much for writing this (and for the other posts and videos too)!
Erin Myers says
Hi Nancy,
Welcome to the discussion and congrats on wanting to take control of your scoli. As for a list of practitioners, watch my video blog post titled How Do I Make My Scoliosis Better? https://spiralspine.com/make-my-scoliosis-better/. Let me know what town you’re in and I’ll let you know if I know someone there. I’d encourage you to get Hard Core Scoli https://spiralspine.com/book/, my workout DVD if you want to have an at home Pilates workout for scoli. Also, please watch the Starting Point Series https://spiralspine.com/scoliosis-starting-point-series/ to get a better grasp on your scoliosis and to figure out where to prop yourself when exercising, be that yoga or Pilates.
Blessings,
Erin
Rameshwar kapoor says
Hi All,
I also have a mild scoliosis which is a ‘C” shaped in my lower back section. Which makes convex to my left side and concave on other. I recently found out that by performing side plank it may help improve the curvature. I then tried doing side plank keeping convex side downwards and concave facing upside. Though I have done it only once and going to continue with the same. I feel when we lift the hip during performing said exercise with body weight on hand instead of elbow then it makes your muscles to strengthen and push the convex side upwards. I guess that may help but it actually depends upon the final results. Even if we do it on the other side then we can’t raise the hip as it will again worsen the curve as that would strengthen the muscles of concave side . I feel one can just get into the side plank position with concave facing the floor but should’t raise the hip, that may work as stretching the concave side. That’s what I understand and would love to discuss it with all. Thank you
Erin Myers says
If you do exactly what you’ve been doing and raise the top leg in your side plank (the right leg) it will help to fire the muscles in your low right back that need strengthening.
Rameshwar kapoor says
Thank u Erin, that’s exactly what I’m gonna do. Actually I’m doing Side plank along with other stretching exercises, like Head to knee, Head to knee side wise and kind of hanging so that I first stretch the concave side and then perform side plank to strengthen the convex side. Do you think this would work out??
Erin Myers says
The concept seems like a good start. Do it all in front of a mirror so you can keep an eye on alignment. Either go to neutral or overcorrect your curves while exercising. If you need help with learning about watching your alignment while exercising you can get Hard Core Scoli.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W3XHVEK/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tlie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00W3XHVEK&linkCode=as2&tag=spirspin-20&linkId=ILBF2L26AZYYVPHU
Rameshwar kapoor says
Thanks for the suggestion But do you think that side plank following stretching exercises would work out??
Erin Myers says
Truth be told – there are too many variables for me to promise anything. I don’t trust the research mentioned above to say it’ll work, but the fact that you had mentally worked through your scoli and described it in an understandable fashion makes me think that you can test to see if your plan will work. This isn’t going to be a magic pill, but do it for a bit and see if you have success. You can see in other blog posts that other people didn’t have as much success with the side plank though.
Feel free to upload a picture of your back to this post if you want me to look at it. It’s hard for me to say anything without seeing it.
Rameshwar kapoor says
Hmmm, I could not mark my spine myself, needed someone to mark it for me and take a picture. I’ll do it asap and then upload that here. That said, about side plank we can’t come to conclusion as we need to 1st continue doing it for quite a sometime and then if there are any changes, be it good or bad, will help us understand the side plank properly. Anyway I got to know about one scoliosis center in London, links is below
http://www.scoliosissos.com/results/patient-results-20-39yrs.shtml
I wanted to check for more info as what all therapies they use, trying to get the info and share with you guys.
Till then go hard on your scoli 😉
Erin Myers says
If you in fact live in London and have access to the Scoliosis SOS clinic in London you hit a gold mine!
Rameshwar kapoor says
Unfortunately not but if I got no solution for my scoli then would try for that. Till then need to stick to same regime, I’m quite confident of. Wish me luck 🙂
Sophie Wade says
Scoliosis SOS clinic has helped people
Do a Google search for ‘daily mail scoliosis SOS’ & you will find many stories of patients it has helped.
However when I looked into it, it required a few months off work (although they can provide a sick note for you) & it was £££ be aware. The consultation is also quite hefty. So you need to be ready to take this step time wise & financially. Of course if it works thats wonderful.
That’s why I’m trying to see if I can gain improvement through yoga first/a more time/cost effective way.
Private Skype consultations over the internet Erin?!
Erin Myers says
Where do you live? I can help you find an someone in your town who can help you.
Sophie Wade says
Thanks Erin. That’s very kind. I live in Richmond, Surrey, U.K. South west London
Erin Myers says
Sophie, I just reached out to a Pilates instructor I trained who now lives in the London area. Her name is Prue Armstrong and she gave me permission to give you her private info. I’ll email it to you. Prue is AWESOME and knows how to work with people who have scoli. We shared many clients when she was living in Nashville, Tennessee. If for some reason she’s befuddled by your scoli she’ll be able to hook you up with someone in your area who is a better fit.
Sophie Wade says
Erin thank you so much! I’ll check her out! Your recommendation is very valuable to me as most people in even the osteopathy, pilates fields don’t actually know what to do with us! Thank you
Rameshwar kapoor says
Hi Erin, its been quite long since I posted a comment. I’ve something to talk about. Need to share a pic with you. How to do that, I’ve no idea. May be you have my email id, so if you could just drop a mail to me then I can also share the pic through mail (maintaining the privacy). Reply awaited.
Thank you
Sophie Wade says
This is v.helpful. Thank you
Sophie Wade says
I believe I am the same as you Rameshwar. C shape if you look at me from behind. So my personal left hand side of my body is straight & my right hand side is curved inwards. So I call my right hand side my Concave side. I believe that is correct. I think Erin was saying in contrast to the original study, to try the side plank with the concave (curved inside) side facing the ground. Is this correct?
Rameshwar kapoor says
Exactly, thats why I said that whatever we do and if that benefits any of us then we can share that info with each other to help. I hope so, that you got my email id and we can even communicate there as I don’t wish to flood Erin’s page with msgs everyday. I hope you understand that. I’m doing certain changes in plank to strengthen lower right side of my back where you and me have got the “C” curve. I did read about schroth method a bit too and from there I was trying to mold the plank according to the need. mail me on [email protected] and we’ll try to share some more info in detail. hope to hear from you soon.
Sophie Wade says
To add to my comment below, I have a side C curve in the lower section of my spine. So when you look at me from the back, you see a C, a bend to the left. I will now try doing the side plank with the bend, the concave side facing the floor, right hand on the floor & report back.
Erin Myers says
Sophie, I’m glad you were aware that your scoli was getting worse and stopped the exercise. If you haven’t already seen them, check our my two other posts on the side plank theory.
https://spiralspine.com/side-plank-exercise-scoliosis-norway-case-study/
https://spiralspine.com/yoga-side-plank-scoliosis-demonstration/
Sophie Wade says
Wow. Thank you so much for writing this. I have side scoliosis & have been doing said exercise on the side that is straight & it has got worse! I will try with the curved, concave side facing towards the floor now. Thank you!!!!
Rameshwar kapoor says
Hi Sophie, did you try the side plank otherwise. Like concave to face the floor?? If so then what results did you get?? Like it worsened further or you could improve a bit?? I’m also performing side plank on convex side since more than couple of weeks and haven’t seen much difference but wanted to check as you mentioned in your post that performing plank on your convex side worsened your curve. So if you could share something, would be a great help. will wait for your reply
Thank you
Sophie Wade says
Hi Rameshwar,
Well I’ve been doing the side plank since that post for as long as i can stand it (really only about 40 seconds!) and sadly I can’t see it’s better but it’s also not worse (when doing the other side it was). The original study I think said to start with 30 seconds, then aim for one minute & then for as long as you can do. So it could be I’m not doing it for long enough. Or maybe our type of curve is more complex to solve. I would love this website to post more exercises to help straighten a side curve please!!
Rameshwar kapoor says
Hi Sophie,
Thank you for your valuable reply. Even I did try planks on convex side and I didn’t feel much difference but a bit ( worsned). Then I saw in Erin’s one of the blogs that one guy practiced plank on convex side for couple of months and it worsened then I thought to do it on concave side. I’m doing it keeping certain things in mind. There is something called as rotation in your spine causing scoliosis so we need to reverse it. During plank on concave side I feel it does de-rotate the spine. As you do the plank your pelvis should be tilted towards left and torso on right.
Now as you are doing it for 40 secs a day, so I feel that would either take alot of time to show any changes. If you can do it for some more time then it may show the changes little sooner. I’m doing it for 30 secs, 20 repetitions. If calculated then 10 mins everyday for 6 days a week. You try to do it as per your strengths but improve the duration. Keep in mind that you need to even strengthen your shoulder.
Would update back if any changes seen.
Sophie Wade says
Hi Rameshwar.
Thats a really good idea. I’ll try & do your style of repetitions. I thought it had to be all in one go.
I’m interested in the fact that the scoliosis could be due to rotation in the spine as well.
Can you elaborate on how you do the side plank (on the concave side that goes in) & position the pelvis & torso at the same time?
Thank you!
Rameshwar kapoor says
Hi Sophie,
Would you be able to share your email id??, so that I could send some attachments carrying some details on side plank and other stuff too, to fix the spine. As you have got very similar curve like I have so why don’t we keep sharing the experience and look into that we should achieve what we are looking for. Let’s help each other and once we succeed then will share with everyone so that they could help themselves. What say??
Sophie Wade says
Yes I’m interested how do we share details?
Rameshwar kapoor says
I’ll give you my email id, thats [email protected]. Send me an introduction mail, will carry forward from there.
Erin Myers says
Sophie, I have helped many of my private clients maintain and even decrease their curvatures through exercise, but giving a miracle pill exercise over the internet that is a one-sized-fits-all is something that doesn’t exist. The last thing I want to do is give an exercise that makes some of my followers’ scoli get worse. That being said, I get the request for exercises ALL THE TIME. Hold tight, I hear your request for exercises…
Sophie Wade says
Hi Erin! Thank you for your reply! I understand it’s hard to give one size fits all as we are all different. My curve is quite straightforward (so to speak!) It’s a simple side C curve, so I just meant for more straightforward cases would be amazing or some insight or anything! Thank you for being so engaged! Sophie
Erin Myers says
I know I’m sounding redundant, but if you go through the steps in the Starting Point Series and use that knowledge while working your core in Hard Core Scoli, you should see results in your spine. If you pair that with finding a local practitioner (be that Pilates, Gyrotonic, or a Schroth practitioner) you should see a big change in your body. Use the Scoliometer By Spiral Spine App to track your rotation, write it in My Scoli Journal to see what therapies work (before you blow your savings on a multi-month clinic). If you need stories and suggestions of practitioners check out The Beautiful Scoliotic Back.
Sophie Wade says
This is Massively helpful Erin! Not redundant at all as I found this thread through Google & had not yet found the other links on your website of Starting Point, Hard Core Scoli, the amazing app & further resources. Thank you for being so active on this page & committed to helping people. I appreciate it.
Rameshwar kapoor says
Hi Erin,
As you mentioned in the reply to Sophie that you did help some with exercises so could you even suggest something here for the ppl having “c” shape in the lower section. Though I’m trying side plank on concave side now, I would like to know some more options and try and I feel for that there is no one better than you here to advice right. So request you to share something.
Erin Myers says
I need to see a picture of your back, be that an X-ray, a bare back picture where you are wearing a tight top, or dot sticker pictures (see the starting point series). A “”c” shape in the lower section” is not enough information for me to give an exercise. To further that, There’s a high likelihood that you and Sophie may have slightly different curves, so Sophie needs to upload a pic of her back too.
Sophie Wade says
I will do!
disqusbro says
Has anyone tested out whether doing it opposite to what the original study says gives better results?
Erin Myers says
To my knowledge there has not been research done to test the opposite side, if so I’d LOVE to see it. It would benefit the entire scoli world for this research to be done, since so many extremely knowledgeable scoli practitioners around the world have been debating over this. Furthermore, if this test is done they should redo the side plank research I wrote about above to fix the massive issues and to see if it really does work. Or we can all just agree that doing a side plank is not a magic cure for scoliosis and we can all just move on and help those with scoliosis with all of our different methods that do work.
Arturo says
Erin, It would be great to test the opposite side, also if the side plank study is redone and an extense follow up. But we must to take decisions with what we have. People affected by scoliosis must to be sure about what really works or may works and what never worked in order to avoid a surgery. It’s full of non surgical methods trying to achieve this but we only knew about a study showing one that effectively can do it and it is about braces. But now we also have a study showing that a Yoga exercise may reduce in a very much significative way a curve, also a big curve and also an adult curve! So there is not any doubt we must to prove with that exercise of course!!!
If we think that Global Advance is a serious company, then we think that this study is also serious, at least in the sense that the escence of the abstract is right, so we may think that x-rays before-after values are right and the exercise was done as they said was done, that is, with the convex side of the main curve downward. Then we may be sure that there is evidence that this kind of exercise done in this way may reduce in a very much significant way a curve. We have not evidence about nothing else.. there is not any other study showing it.
Erin Myers says
Believe it or not, there are dozens of studies showing different specific exercises decrease Cobb Angle and rotation…they just weren’t published in the last 12 months and therefore didn’t make the news this year. This is one of the reasons I created Spiral Spine, to give this information out to the mass public in bite size, digestible pieces that they can immediately implement into their lives.
You seem to desperately want “the truth” and so my suggestion to you would be to get your hands on all these articles and read for yourself. I know someone who is a professor at a university and was able to do searches in all medical journals and find studies for me to read. I gave her a few key words, or names of specific titles I’d found, and she ran with it. I probably have over a hundred scoli studies I got that way. I read all the studies, disected them, and chose which ones I trusted and wanted to try on myself and my clients. I also knew one person who paid $20 to get access to an actual medical library at a large university then did all the searches herself there.
You don’t have to be a doctor to get ahold of these studies. I would encourage you to not hang your hat too much on this one study. Open your eyes to the mounds of other studies. Best of luck, Arturo.
Arturo says
Erin, I’m seeking since 6 years ago something able to reduce in a significant way a big curve in adulthood, is not something only about this year, I may say I have looked for in tons of posts in the NSF forum, cientists sites, I even talked really a lot with a recognized scoliosis researcher so I may be really sure that never before was a controlled study showing significant reductions in adults.
I have talked with literally thousands of professionals around the world, a lot of them said me that they get good reductions in adults, but when I insisted in seeing the proof, they didn’t want to talk with me any more.. just only one exception in all these years.
Nothing may do me more happy than seeing other studies proving great adult reductions too. By now I only may trust in this side plank study, the only proving what I looked for.
If you really know about other studies proving the same, say me please wich are, a reference, the name of the study, the reserchers, doctors.. something let me to find them.
Erin Myers says
I commend you for pursuing “truth” about scoliosis. Putting all this research in one place will take me a long time. I’ll put it on my list for future blog posts. Thanks for telling me what you want. Martha C. Hawes PhD wrote a great book called Scoliosis and the Human Spine. It’s really heavy, but she writes all about this research. I think I bought it through the national scoliosis website store.
Tell me more about you, or whoever it is who has Scoli. Age, degree, what type of Scoli, current exercise or therapies, what therapies have been tried, where you/they live… While academic findings are great, there oftentimes does get to be a point where you just have to try some different therapies and trust some people to help you. Age is not on your side with Scoli.
Arturo says
There’s not other serious study in the world proving a significant reduction in an adult with a big curve. Martha Hawes (who was under ‘surgical range’) never published studies showing that, nobody did it, that’s the reason why this side planks provoked so great interest around the world. This kind of discussions were exhausted in the Nsf forum, nobody around the world did a study showing a reduction in a big adult curve. If someone says the contrary, then must to show it.
I’m trying to know all I may know about this side plank before insists to my daughter to do it every day. She is 21 y.o. and has a 55º right thoracolumbar C curve according last x-rays 6 months ago. We live in Argentine, she is doing Gpr since 6 years ago when x-rays showed 57º. She has a really flexible spine, when she is lying down over her left shoulder and hip, I see all her vertebras aligned. She need to strenghten tissues fighting against gravity force. I thought they was mainly ligaments and fascias, but is difficult to believe this with this study. If there is something I don’t know about it I need to know what is and I only may trust in evidences.
Erin Myers says
AHHHHHHH! Okay, now I understand why you are so persistent on all this; your 21 year old daughter has a curve over 50 degrees. Thank you for telling me this, now I know how to help you most effectively. You’re a dad who is determined to help to his daughter. I see now.
If your daughter is 21 and still has a flexible curve (which is GREAT!!!!) then I would still lump her into the AIS (adolescent idiopathic group), not the degenerative scoliosis group. The huge curve reduction that we’ve been writing back and forth about was from an elderly person with degenerative scoliosis, most likely caused from osteoporosis. This is not the case for your daughter.
I don’t know if you live near Buenos Aires, but I did a quick search online for Pilates and Gyrotonic instructors in the town and there are TONS. Since I couldn’t find any Schroth practitioners there, I’d start with finding the most experienced and knowledge Pilates and or Gyrotonic practitioner in your town for your daughter. Start with what you’ve got locally, and lucky for you there are lots of great options! There are MANY continuing education courses for both of the modalities I mentioned and I bet at least one instructor there has attended one. I bet you’ll be surprised what you find.
Lastly, now that I know this is about your daughter and you’re looking for practical and evidence based exercises to do for our daughter, I’ve cut and copied this portion of a handout I put together from a scoliosis training course I taught a few years back.
Medical research idiopathic scoliotic findings
• Rotational stiffness is related to the severity of curve in frontal plane 2
• The more rigid the curve, the more likely it is to worsen 4
• Muscles weaker on concave side of thoracic spine 7
• Weaker when rotating towards concavity of spinal curve 5
• Asymmetry between lumbar paraspinals and obliques 5, 6
• Causes postural alterations in orientation of head, shoulders, scapulas, pelvis, and rotation of body segments in horizontal plane 9
• Characterized by decrease in standing stability 9
• Surgery reduces frontal plane curvature and only minimally helps with axial rotation, so rib hump can persist after surgery 2
• Results of exercise to correct muscle asymmetry are equal to or better than bracing 6
• Scientific community gives very little consideration to physical exercise as a form of therapy for scoliosis 10
• Physical exercise important during growth to delay or prevent need for bracing and/or keep scoliosis under 30 degrees 10
• Physical exercise positively influences breathing function, strength, and postural balance 10
• Muscle deficiency can be corrected with specific torso rotation and lumbar extensor strengthening 6
• Frontal plane curvature corrects in response to lateral bending, but axial rotation does not 2
• Ribcage side-shift exercises can stabilize curvature progression in adolescents 4
• Functional scoliosis caused by tension of muscles surrounding the spine 1
Research and References
1. Azegami, H., Murachi, S., Kitoh, J., Ishida, Y., Kawakami, N., Makino, M. (1998). Etiology of idiopathic scoliosis. Clinical Orthopaedics and Related Research. 357:229-236.
2. Beuerlein, M., Raso, V.J., Hill, D.L., Moreau, M.J., Madooh, J.K. (2003). Changes in alignment of the scoliotic spine response to lateral bending (abstract). Spine. 28(7):693-698.
3. http://www.ESpine.com
4. Hawes, M. (2003). The use of exercises in the treatment of scoliosis: an
evidence-based critical review of the literature. Pediatric Rehabilitation.
6(3-4): 171-182.
5. McIntire, K., Asher, M., Burton, B., Liu, W. (2007). Trunk rotational strength asymmetry in adolescents with idiopathic scoliosis: an observational study. http://www.scoliosisjournal.com/content/2/1/9
6. Mooney, V., Brigham, A. (2003). The role of measured resistance exercises in adolescent scoliosis. Orthopedics. 26(2):167-171.
7. Mooney, V., Gulick, J., Pozos, R. (2000). A preliminary report on the effect of measured strength training in adolescent idiopathic scoliosis (abstract). Journal of Spinal Disorders. 13(2): 102-107.
8. Myers, T. Anatomy Trains. 2nd edn. Edinburgh: Churchill Livingston; 2009.
9. Nault, M., Allard, P., Hinse, S., LeBlanc, R., Caron, O., Sadeghi, H. (2002).
Relations between standing stability and body posture parameters in a
scoliosis. Spine. 27(17): 1911-1917.
10. Negrini, S., Antomini, G., Carabalona, R., Minozzi, S. (2003). Physical exercises as a treatment for adolescent idiopathic scoliosis. A systematic review. Pediatric Rehabilitation. 6(3-4): 227-235.
11. Omey, M.L., Micheli, L.J., Gerbino, P.G. (2000). Idiopathic scoliosis and
spondylolysis in the female athlete. Clinical Orthopaedics and Related
Research. 372: 74-84.
12. Pashman, R. (2001). Adolescent Idiopathic Scoliosis. Backtalk 24(1).
13. Taft, E., Francis, R. (2003). Evaluation and Management of Scoliosis. Journal of Pediatric Health Care 17(1): 42-44.
14. Thek Lineback, K. Scolio Pilates. Hauge Printing; 2011.
15. Warren, M., Brooks-Gunn, J., Hamilton, L., Warren, F., Hamilton, W. (1986). Scoliosis and fractures in young ballet dancers. New England Journal of Medicine. 314(21): 1348-1353.
Arturo says
Erin, thamks for let me know all of this. Some of those study I think I have never seen before and are really interesting. Also I’m analyzing what you put in your training course. I feel you are really passional, I don’t know have many degrees do you have and how many you would have reduced, but even not being free of interest of course, I think you are really honest and you are sure about what you say. I know also other proffesionals about whom I may say the same.
Schroth is not in my country, I know about Pilates and Gytronic since many years ago as I know about Abr, Fed, Trm, Feldenkrais, Eutonia, Body mind centering, Spinecor, Alexander, EDF, Antigymnastique, Qui Gong, Yoga (of every kind) , Sohier, Chiropractice (eastern, tibetean, Indian..), Osteopaty, Okido.. Dohrn Method, Drop rain.. I may fill a lot of lines really naming all of the hundreds of alternative therapies, some of them really strange, almost unknow that I know. I analyzed all of them, I extracted the principles behind them, good ideas, good concepts, very much reasonable really, but how I may know if they may be enough? I cannot know it, so I only may trust in facts, and now I know a fact. As I said you before, really a lot of professionals, practicioners of those methods and others ‘guaranteed me’ a good reduction, but never showing me just only one case as I was asking for. I cannot believe a degenerative scoliois may reach 120º and if it can, it could not be very much different to a idhiopatic one so I have now a proof about something that works, how I may decide for other else having not any proof?. It would have not any sense, I cannot be so irresponsible, so I only may decide to consider other method if someone show me a proof, if not is because they cannot and they cannot because what they do don’t work, at least not as I need. Anyway of course I’ll appreciate very much if you say me who you think is the best practicioner in my city (Buenos Aires) of course, even thinking as I think that is extremely difficult to find someone doing what I need.
Erin Myers says
Arturo, I’m very passionate about all that I do, as you can tell. You can check out my bio at the “About Erin” tab at the top of the site. My husband jokes that I’d have three PhD’s by the time I’m 45 if I had no other obligations in life because all I would do is go to school. I love school and I love gaining more knowledge. I have two sons, a husband, loads of clients, organic gardens, along with my own spiral spine to maintain. So, I share all my research and “papers” with the scoli world via Spiral Spine from all my night time reading.
I’m glad you benefited from the research I posted. I hesitated to post it because I’ve acquired MANY more exercise research papers since I wrote that. I’m a perfectionist, and didn’t want to give you something incomplete.
Two quotes of Albert Einstein ring in my ears: “I have no special talent; I am only passionately curious”, and “It’s not that I’m so smart; it’s just that I stay with problems longer.” There ya go.
I hear you about all the different modalities. I know, it’s overwhelming…for me too. The KEY is finding a very knowledgeable practitioner. That’s it. The practitioner can stem from any of the modalities you mentioned. It’s ALL about the person who is teaching. Many great instructors are trained in many modalities.
Since it’s been years since I’ve studied Spanish, I’m not going to be much help in going through websites in Buenos Aires reading bios of instructors. Call or email each studio asking for rehab instructors who know how to work with clients that have scoliosis. In a town as large as yours, I KNOW there’s an instructor there who can work with your daughter.
Arturo says
Thanks Erin, but that is what I did, I talked with tons of practitioners of every kind of specialities you may imagine, but nobody never up to now, gave me what I was asking for. So, is simply the conclusion, they cannot show me a reduction in an adult with a big curve because they cannot achieve this and of course, why should I trust in someone saying what they cannot prove? It would have not any sense of course!
Erin Myers says
In the Beautiful Scoliotic Back I put an excerpt from an interview, that happened years ago, where someone asked me about who would be on my scoliosis practitioner dream team. It was a really hard question to answer because I have so much empathy for people like your daughter, who are all around the world. I dare not puncture their balloon of hope because they don’t have a specific type of practitioner at their fingertips. I get emails from people like that every day – people looking for help but can’t find practitioners in their town.
It was because of that one little question that spawned me to start making usable products for people with scoliosis who could affordably access them all around the world. Use the Scoliometer By Spiral Spine app and check to see if specific exercises help or hurt your daughters back. That’s real data on your daughter’s back. Get the Hard Core Scoli video so your daughter can start to strengthen her core and increase the knowledge of her scoli body. If she has a very mobile lumbar scoli curve she is REALLY going to need a strong core to help stabilize it. If you study the Scroth literature, among many other scoli therapy techniques around the world, they all incorporate core work.
Save up your money and make a family journey to a Schroth clinic sometime in the next 10 years. It’s never going to be too late for your daughter to see a practitioner. I actually just got an email from a 47 year old lady who JUST saw a Schroth practitioner for the first time. She has a 50 degree curve and is using Hard Core Scoli as a guide when she can’t see her practitioner. There ARE active things your daughter can do.
Arturo says
My daughter is following a tratment with her Physiatrist since 6 years ago and according x-rays her curve didn’t progress and fortunately she is free od pain and having a really normal life. I agree musclular strenght is needed, but I’m looking for reducing her curve. Schroth I think is really good although is really very hard for me to understand the book, but is asymetric, sure is good, but they never posted just only one reduction in an adult, so I cannot be sure if they can. Certainly this study don’t include Schroth but it’s according Sosort’s definitions and is very much dissapointing really http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4243472/
Erin Myers says
I encourage you to email the head of the head of Schroth in Germany (Dr. Weiss) and also in Boston, Massachusetts in the USA (Dr. Moramarco). Email your daughter’s latest X-ray and I’m sure they’s be glad to give you their opinion of what’s possible with your daughter’s back and also to give you proof of what they’ve done in people with similar curves.
Arturo says
As I know Dr. Weiss is not any more with Schroth, only with braces.
I wrote to Asklepios Schroth Klinik 6 years ago when I began to read about scoliosis. Also I talked with Dr. Rigo to his Schroth Clinic in Barcelona. You would be really surprised if you’d know with how many people I talked and only once I obtained a reference to a case of an adult obtaining a significant reduction. Almost all never replied when I asked for just only one case.
Erin Myers says
You’ve been a busy man over the past few year, Arturo. You’re more knowledgable on the subject than I first suspected. When I come across more data that would be helpful to you I’ll definitely post it to help you on your quest. I know the data is out there.
Arturo says
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madmeuf says
In your opinion, having left lumbar C curve scoliosis, I should be doing planks on my right arm – that is, with the concave section (right, non raised portion of my back) closest to the floor. If I’m understanding correctly, this should strengthen the muscle, which naturally starts to pull my spine toward the right. This all seems fine to me – it feels natural and balanced to work on strengthening the weak portion of my back.
Now, according to the study, I should be doing planks on the convex side, making an already muscly side even more so.
I appreciate your analysis. It was the best thing I could find online on a subject I have been wondering and wondering about. Why don’t we have better answers now? What is the medical community dragging their feet for when it comes to researching the effect of exercise on scoliosis? Is it because there’s no money to be made for the doctors? As in, no brace, no surgery = no industry? I’ve often believed the reason I was confined to a brace 14 hours a day for 6 years as a kid was because someone wanted to make money. No one ever insisted on stretches or exercises…
Erin Myers says
I’m actually going to be doing two follow-up blog posts on this side-plank article because I’ve received so many emails from people about it from around the world. I specifically talk about a lumbar curve in one of the posts. Stay tuned for the two follow-up posts where I in-depthly talk about thoracic versus lumbar curves in regards to doing side-planks. Hint: I’m not a fan of doing a side-plank for lumbar curves.
I share your frustration with the American medical world when it comes to scoliosis. I’m so sorry to hear no one ever shared movement therapy options with you when you were younger. Unfortunately, I’ve heard stories like yours many times. It’s because of stories like yours that I started Spiral Spine. I pray my megaphone will be loud enough to let those with scoliosis know that there are options.
It might be shocking to hear, but there IS lots of awesome research proving the effects of exercise and other conservative practices regarding scoliosis – it’s just outside of the United States that it’s being done. I don’t know if the reason many doctors in America say there are no other options besides bracing (many of which are prescribed are useless) and surgery is because they are ill informed or they just want to make money. I do know that many people with good research have had a hard time getting their research published. I have also seen in some medical text books used in medical schools where it explicably says that exercise therapy is not a viable form of therapy for scoliosis. Regardless of speculation, I’m grateful your eyes have been opened.
Arturo says
As I know, there’s not any doubt that people in the study having a C right/left curve, did it over the right/left convex side. And there is not around the world other study showing reduction doing it (or other exercise) in other way. Evidence don’t need faith, something needed in anything else.
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
We did some work with a side plank type exercise about 5-6 years ago, and while it may reduce the cobb angle in some cases, it generally increased the rotation in the thoracic spine over time and may cause curve progression. We discontinued it a while ago.
Erin Myers says
Dr. Stitzel, it’s nice to correspond with a professional on all this side-plank craziness. Your findings don’t surprise me at all with the increased rotation. Most people have absolutely no core strength, so asking one to do a side-plank for an extended period of time would of course cause compensatory bodily alignments. Thanks for your comments.
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
Hi Erin, I think you assessment may be accurate in many cases. It could also have to do with the amount of thoracic rotation in the specific case as well.
Ultimately, treatment needs to focus on more important parameters and cobb angle reductions. Keep up the good work Erin.
Erin Myers says
Yes, yes. Well said. Oh, if there was only a magic pill exercise for scoli!
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
Actually, funny you bring that up. We are working on some ground breaking research on neurotransmitters and Serotonin may actually be as close to a magic pill as we’ll ever get.
Erin Myers says
I read the published research on the scoliosis neurotransmitter work a few months ago and was intrigued. It makes sense. Please keep me updated on your research.
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
Hi Erin, Will do. Dr. Mark Morningstar did a very detailed lecture on the topic about a year ago. Here is the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EJWKHi0_80
Arturo says
Dr. Clayton, of course I perfectly understand what is a three dimensional curve. You have a scoliosis clinic so of course you are not free of interest in debunking this side plank study. Of course people around the world should not to trust in what you are saying without giving the proof, so why you don’t post those x-rays? Where I can see them?
Arturo says
It would be great to see it some day working, specially if also works in adults, but up to now we only knows that the side plank works, since is what it says a controlled study, the only one around the world proving that something so ‘magic’ is possible.
Arturo says
Erin, you said me that you don’t doubt about the before-after x-rays measurements, so I don’t understand why you are saying this now. If you think that big curves also in adults were not reduced in the way said in the study, please say me why.
Erin Myers says
There was one major curve reduction. One. You seem to want to base all your movement on research, but that seems to be like a case study, not a study. Aldo, we have no idea what exercise was actually done because so many modifications were given. There simply isn’t enough information in this study.
Arturo says
It’s evidence. Evidence is what I need to know what decision is reasonable or not. Is the only one evidence we may see in a study showing an immportant reduction in an adult. If someone may also do it, why they are not proving it in the same way as Dr. Fischer did? The answer is not difficult to imagine: they cannot.
Arturo says
The abstract was enough clear. It was done with convex side of the main curve downward. If you don’t doubt about seriousness of this abstract I don’t understand why you say we cannot trust in what it clearly says.
Arturo says
It’s really difficult to imagine a big reduction of the curve and an increase of rotation really.. Do you have x-rays showing it?
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
Hi Arturo, please don’t confuses a reduction in cobb angle (lateral bending) and a reduction in the curvature. One does not equal the other.
We do have x-rays of the rotation increasing when using rehab that produces an effect very similar to side plank exercises.
Arturo says
Dr. Clayton, of course I perfectly understand what is a three dimensional curve. You have a scoliosis clinic so of course you are not free of interest in debunking this side plank study. Of course people around the world should not to trust in what you are saying without giving the proof, so why you don’t post those x-rays? Where I can see them?
Arturo says
Do you think it was what happened with the 120º woman of the study? The reduction was almost 50%. Surely she should have died if rotation would have increased!
Arturo says
Certainly you must to show now x-rays proving what you are saying! You are discouraging surely a lot of people, not only me saying this! I need to know now if what you are sayimg is true or not!
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
Hi Arturo, “Surely she should have died if the rotation would have increased”??? That statement tells me all I need to know about your level of understanding in this conversation, which is clearly a dead end proposition.
Keep working the learning curve process, but I will at least point you in the right direction. Think of AIS as primarily a neuro-hormonal condition and the spinal curve as the primary symptom of the underlying condition. Good luck and be well.
Arturo says
I think a 120º curve should imply a very much severe rotation, probably leading to death. Do you don’t think that? Even if it’s thoracic? We are talking about a giant curve, death with so kind of curve would not surprise very much to noone. Why do you believe Harrington invented surgery? Certainly it surprise me very much a Dr. may see it as something absurd!. And if after doing the exercise the rotation increased as you are saying it should have happened, what would be expected? But if it is what you saw, please let me see the proof. People around the world must to know if this exercise is dangerous as you are saying it is. Anyone may say what they want, but few as Dr. Fischer proved it. If you know the key for reduction in adults, shows it in a controlled study as he did.
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
Idiopathic scoliosis is not fatal. Even in very severe curves. To imply otherwise is merely lack of education on the condition. You may want to sit this one out and leave it up to the professionals.
Arturo says
Thoracics over 90º may reduce lung space (it’s a mater of geomtry) in a dangerous way, of course reducing life span. What may be said about really giant curves! Is the first time in my life I hear someone doubting about this. May you copy a link to some article supporting what you are saying? I’m really surprised.
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
I really don’t have the time to do your research for you, but Here is a 50 year follow up study of untreated patients….They didn’t die any more or earlier than the general population.
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
Here is another study…..
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
and here is a review of literature on the topic…
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
here is a review of literature on the topic…
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
Forgot to attach the study. Sorry.
Arturo says
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=195893#REF-JOC21444-47
This is only about LIS. ‘ according to Dickson,24 the presence of a significant thoracic deformity prior to age 5 years indicates a real risk of cardiopulmonary compromise, whereas LIS is most commonly a matter of deformity without any serious organic health problems. For these reasons, inferences about the natural history of LIS from uncontrolled studies of heterogeneous groups are questionable.’
It seems they are sure that people of the study had not a curve before 10 y.o. Anyway:
‘In LIS, only patients with thoracic apices and curves of more than 100° are at increased risk of death from cor pulmonale and right ventricular failure’
I have never realized before what the table 2 implies. Thoracolumbar curves may increase over the doble in adulthood. I’m really very much worry, this is the type of curve of my daughter.
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
Scoliosis is very much as serious health concern, no doubt, just not a fatal one. Thoraco lumbar curves do have a higher risk of progression then other curve patterns and early stage intervention is critical. Basically you have to get the center masses of the torso and pelvis lined up neurologically or they tend to collapse during periods of rapid growth.
Simple concept, difficult application.
Arturo says
I’m thimking only in young adults and I only have evidence about Side Plank.. may be a not clear evidence about Spinecor for adults to.. I’m not sure about this.
Vincent says
Hello Erin, my daughter has a 70 dégrée scoliosis , she’s 13 years old , can the side plank help ? She has a thoratic scoliosis with a right convex . Thank you for a reply.
Erin Myers says
Yes, I bet your daughter could benefit from doing side planks BUT you have to remember that this in not a magic pill. With a 70 degree curve going to the right, her upper left posterior ribcage is very compressed. It needs to be lengthened and strengthened. Since your daughter is so young, and has such a high degree of curvature, I bet your daughter would benefit greatly by going to a Schroth intensive so she (and you) can learn all the best movements to stop the curve from progressing. I’d also immediately find a manual therapist and Pilates and or Gyrotonic instructor in your town to work with her weekly. One exercise done for a few minutes a day, which this research article is saying, will very doubtfully stop or reduce your daughters curve because she’s so young and her curve is so high. You need to get some outside help if you want to stop the progression of her scoli.
Vincent says
Thank you
Arturo says
I wasted my time trying since some years ago to know which are the muscles allowing to bear a great burden on the shoulders, because they stretch the spine making us taller .. I conclude that Science is in diaspers, so nobody may saying it. Obviously those are the muscles that should to be strengthened in order to reduce the curve, supposing muscles can do it. Some people says that fascias are the tissues not allowing gravity force to compress the spine increasing the curve.. others says this about ligaments.. This ‘experiment’ seems to prove that are muscles.. which ones? Who knows..
Dr. Clayton Stitzel says
Hi Arturo, idiopathic scoliosis is primarily a neuro-hormonal condition the creates a spinal curve (via the muscles) as the primary symptom. The muscles are just the vehicle of delivery.
JoseGuevara1 says
I agree with your article Erin. It didn’t make sense to me when they said the weak side was the convex side. It is obvious that the weaker muscles are the ones not maintaining the spine aligned correctly and the strong side is where the convexity forms as the muscles pull the spine away from the midline.
Arturo says
I believe people saying convex side is the weak, is because they are over extended and is not possible then for them to apply any force.
Erin Myers says
Yes, that is what this side plank research is saying. The convex side’s erectors are too long, but they are locked long and are overworked. In most people, if you try to shorten those locked long muscles right off the bat you end up with muscle spasms because they are overworked. The concave side, though locked short, is usually atrophied or not firing at all (which is why if you aim at firing the workhorses on the convex side that are holding up the spine immediately, you are making the situation worse). The concave side needs to first be lengthened, then strengthen in an elongated state, then and only then can you start to work on the convex side.
Arturo says
Who knows.. probably this exercise is doing all in a C curve, maybe concave side muscles are lengthened and also strengthen in some way and those of the convex side are shortened and strengthen.. and also muscles involved in rotation are shortened /strengthen. Probably something happens with fascias. Something should to explain why such incredible reduction was achieved in those cases, mainly those having giant curves.
Erin Myers says
As I mentioned in the article above, I believe the reason they had such amazing success with this research trial is because the people who had the huge decreases in curvature were the older population that had degenerative scoliosis. This form of scoli usually only has 1 curve, or a C curve. Rotation is also usually not involved here. This population of people also usually has osteoporosis, which led to adult onset scoliosis, or degenerative scoliosis. (Read the article again and I mention it.)
Don’t get me wrong, the results of this research were great. I so badly want more research that gets national attention proving that exercise helps scoliosis! My frustration from all this came on because all the national news outlets were stating that these great results stemmed from people with idiopathic scoliosis. That comment is false. Not all scoliosis is the same, and therefore cannot be treated the same.
Arturo says
I think the article is full of errors, so surely those cases were not degenerative, but idiopatic ones. It’s really something hard to imagine a scoliosis begining in adulthood reaching 120º and also degenerative cases should to be more difficult to find. It would have been something really dishonest to select more degenerative cases. I think that probably this excercise work better in adults where gravity is the only one force. How we may be sure about those cases?
Erin Myers says
Here’s the link to the actual research article:
http://www.gahmj.com/doi/full/10.7453/gahmj.2013.064
I’d highly suggest you read it. You’ll be able to sort things out on your own, instead of taking someone else’s word for it.
Also, the clinic where they did this research is in the upper east side of Manhattan in NYC. It’s a very affluent area of NYC with an older population of people. So, I actually don’t think it’s that far fetched for a good number of people to have osteoporosis, because of their age, and then degenerative scoliosis being a secondary issue stemming from osteoporosis.
Arturo says
Yes, This is the article I have read some months ago. http://www.gahmj.com/doi/abs/10.7453/gahmj.2013.064 I didn’t buy the full version but many people of the NSF did it and I’m following the thread there. I have read all the SEAS’s reviews about this article and certainly is very much confusing all what is said there except the before-after x rays values. The authors recognized the SEAS’s reviews., it seems they didn’t know to much about scoliosis really.
I dont believe that even in a population of old people, degenerative cases may be more common than idiopatic ones. And certainly is difficult is to imagine a 120º curve done in adulthood regardless ostheoporosis or not. Many adults with ostheoporosis had a big curve in adolescence, what kind of curve they should to have?
There should to be a way to be sure about what kind of scoliosis was the corresponding to the 120º case. Would be possible to contact her?
Arturo says
The post #85 shows the SEAS (ISICO’s) response to this article http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showthread.php?15261-Side-Planks/page6
Erin Myers says
I really enjoyed ISICO’s (Italian Scientific Spine Institute’s) response to the article. Thanks for the link. It was very well put together and I totally agree.
Unfortunately, I think that the researchers will keep all of their patient information private. You can always try and email Dr Loren M Fishman but I highly doubt he’ll share that info with you. You can find his email address online by doing a quick search. My business partner emailed him on behalf of Spiral Spine to ask a few questions and he was extremely defensive about his research. Good luck!
Arturo says
SEAS (Scientific Exercises Approach to Scoliosis) belong to Isisco and it seems they felt bad with this study. Surely the SEAS exercises never achieved significant reductions in adults and they tried to minimize the outcomes of doing this Yoga exercise.. at least is what it seems.
I have never recieved any response from Dr. Fischer, I’m thinking to contact people of Global Advances..
But certainly, supposing that 120º case was degenerative and ostheoporosis was the cause, vertebras should to be destroyed and also rotation would not be absent.. I have read about a bending-rotation law, so I’m not sure about how much difference could be.
Erin Myers says
I currently have a client that that has a 75 degree idiopathic thoracic curve and her back is very challenging to work with because of the muscles, bones, and fascia that have succumb to so much trauma. She’s been to many Schroth trainings and also wears a Cheneau Gensingen Brace at night (and she’s in her 20’s) so she has a lot of body knowledge. She can manipulate her body by self-correction and can therefore make her body do what I ask it to do during lessons. Her back responds so wonderfully to how I work with her, but I have to use so many different modalities and techniques to open up her back.
I can’t FATHOM someone being able to function with a 120 degree curve, first off. And secondly, I don’t know how by doing one simple exercise for a few minutes a few times a week could decrease that curve by 15 degrees (that person ended at 95 degrees) with no one supervising the exercise. It honestly blows my mind a bit since most of my clients have scoli and I deal with it on a daily basis, not including dealing with my own scoliosis.
For all those reasons, I’ve pretty much blown off this side plank research. But, I do know what works, so I just keep doing that and keep encouraging people to find movement and manual therapists in their town to work on them.
Oh, for the record you can click on the link I posted above for the research article and you should have the option to download a free PDF version of the entire research article. You don’t have to purchase it.
Arturo says
Erin, I have read Dr. Fischer saying the curve was reduced from 120º to 65º. Sorry, I cannot acces to the free entiere pdf In this link I haven’t that option. http://www.gahmj.com/doi/full/10.7453/gahmj.2013.064 How can I get it?
Arturo says
Certainly Mezier therapies believe that the curve is because the tight muscles of the concave side.
Arturo says
And why then an important reduction was achieved working over the convex side as the study said they did?
Katy says
So glad I found your site. My daughter was just diagnosed with idiopathic scoliosis. 35 – 25 S curve, age 15. (Although the second-opinion Dr. said the curve is 27 – 33.) Our insurance will not cover the specialist, further x-rays, boston brace, or schroth therapy so we are in the process of switching but won’t have good insurance coverage until Jan 1.
The original article on the plank pose excited me – sounds like something we can do while we wait the next few weeks. But your article made me realize that we need to blindly believe everything we read, proceed with care, and not cause further damage. She is a physically active girl and in no pain. When looking at the x-ray of her back, the curve first goes to the right and as you move lower, it curves left. According to the Schroth method (not the Study’s), if she does the plank pose, which arm should be used to prop her?
Erin Myers says
Katy, alignment is key for your daughter. If she was going to do a plank, the left hand would be down for your daughter. You need to be her eyes while doing the exercise though. The KEY is making sure her core is engaged and her spine is in correct alignment. Keep fighting the good fight for your daughter’s back.
Erin Myers says
Katy, alignment is key for your daughter. If she was going to do a plank, the left hand would be down for your daughter. You need to be her eyes while doing the exercise though. The KEY is making sure her core is engaged and her spine is in correct alignment. Keep fighting the good fight for your daughter’s back.
PeiSin Lim says
Hi Erin,
I need your help to confirm which side i need to do for the plank pose. I have 45 degree curve. I’m confused which side to strengthen. By looking at my back, the curve towards rights and my right upper back pops. My therapist asked me to stretch the left side than right side.
Hope to see your answer. Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Lim
Erin Myers says
Hi Lim,
So, your major curve is in your thoracic spine (ribcage) and goes to the right. Your left hand would be down for the side plank. Make sure to breathe into and expand your left ribcage with your breath when you do the side plank. Way to be proactive with your scoli!
PeiSin Lim says
Hi Erin, I’m so thankful for you prompt reply. As I mentioned my spine curves towards to right by looking from the back, isn’t i need to stretch my right side instead of left side? since right side muscle should be over-stressed and tight. I just wish to confirm because my physiotherapist taught me few stretching exercises to stretch my left side. I’m worrying am i doing wrongly and make my curve getting worse.
Here is my x ray front (up) and the back (down).
Thanks!
Erin Myers says
Lim,
This is where all the multi-dimensions come in to play, which I talk about in The Beautiful Scoliotic Back a bit. Scoli is very complicated. I’ve got some videos that will be out in 2015 that will shine more light on the physical side of scoli.
Your right erectors (muscles going up and down next to your spine) are locked long, but are overworked. Your right mid and lower trapezius muscles (muscles connecting your spine to your shoulder blade) are too short and overworked. Your left erectors are too short yet are underworked and your left mid and lower trapezius muscles are too long and yet are underworked. This is what I talk about in my blog post above, and this concept is what the research I debunked got wrong. Complicated!!
Your right side will feel tight because those are the muscles doing all the work right now. I know it seems wrong, but your left side is going to be key for your scoli. If your right side feels tight, don’t stretch it, but release it will balls by laying on them (your physiotherapist can teach you). Slowly but surely you need to strengthen your left mid and lower traps.
It’s great that you want to understand this! You are totally owning your scoli. Woohoo, Lim!
PeiSin Lim says
Erin, thanks and I do really appreciate your help answering my questions. I’m 24 years old and thought nothing can reduce my curve. What I can do is do the stretching exercises daily and currently learn on swimming but this will be taking some time. I had done trapeze in the playground and the next day feeling my right side muscle is tighter than my left side. I’m also thinking to learn yoga but not sure whether i’m appropriate to all the yoga postures.
Lastly thanks again and I hope you have a great year in 2015. 🙂
Arturo says
Erin, do you think the study was done in this way? The abstract says the convex side of the main curve was facing down. If it worked in this way, this would be the way to do it since it worked. There is not a study saying that worked doing it in other way. What I doubt is if effectively it was done as the abstract says.
Erin Myers says
Hi Arturo,
Great minds around the world in the scoliosis community disagree with this study and that is simply what I’m attempting to show people. Be that from the Schroth book I mention in my article, to Madeline Black’s comments on her blog http://www.madelineblack.com/blog/ , to the many links people have posted on this comment section.
There isn’t a study showing the other side “works” (concave side down) because a simple side plank exercise is plain and simply not the be-all-end-all answer to scoli.
Arturo says
Erin, don’t matter how great may be a mind, it cannot change a fact. And I didn’t hear nobody saying the before-after x-rays values may be wrong. So Isco, Schroth, SRS or the entire world may disagree, but if those curves were reduced doing that exercise in that way, it have not any sense to propose other way or to say that cannot work. I only read how much upset were the Seas group, but it seems to be because they never achieve so great outcomes. Anyway is not a cure. After a time don’t doing it, it seems the curve arises again. Do you believe this study is a fraud? X-rays values are wrong, or they did other thing? Of course I cannot be sure, but it would surprise me very much. There is a way to be sure? I need to know the true.
Erin Myers says
No, I don’t believe the study was a fraud. I believe they had good intentions to help the scoliosis community, like most other people who have scoliosis clients and patients. My guess is the researchers noticed a positive change in their patients and wanted to spread the news. Once the study was published everyone in the scoliosis community at large started noticing issues in the study. It would benefit the scoliosis community to have the study redone where all the issues in the study are fixed and both side planks are tested against a control group. Who knows if that will ever be done. In the mean time, you’ll have to use your mind to sort through everything.
Arturo says
But do you believe it’s wrong? x rays values are wrong or the way the exercise was done is not the way they said it was?
Erin Myers says
I have no reason to believe the X-ray values are wrong. The “side plank” exercise was actually not just a simple side plank exercise, as I mentioned in my article above. There were MANY different exercises given under the title of “side plank”. So, when people around the world attempt to do a “side plank” they are in fact not doing the exercise this research is speaking of. Furthermore, all these patients were brought into the clinic at least once or twice to be taught the “side plank”, which was then corrected and modified before they were sent off to perform it on their own. People around the world are throwing themselves into what they perceive a side plank to be. No expert eye correcting or modifying them. Obviously, you can expect VERY different outcomes – and that is what is being reported around the world.
Arturo says
Erin, if it would be true, then Global Advance would not be something serious, the abstract is enough clear saying the convex side of the main curve was downward. I cannot believe the abstract may be so wrong. It could not be any doubt about how people of the study having a C curve, did the side plank.
Arturo says
Unfortunately science is in deapers so we cannot deduce what is possible to do or not. In an adult the cause of the curve, the only actual cause is the tissues deformation, gravity force leads to progression but only because tissues are not normal, so the only one possible solution is to alter those tissues in the right way, but we don’t know how much may be altered in a natural way, how much may muscles be shortened, ligaments be strengthened, discs regenerated..
We knew before this study that some significant modifications are possible since people using Spinecor for adults with reduction in brace holds the reduction after removing the brace for a while.. The only way we have to know the true is through these studies.. ‘Only one’ side plank seems something really logic, I have heard recognized authorities saying that cannot work but they never said why, I realized in all this time that nobdy around the world has enough knowledge about scoliosis to say what may be and what no.
Arturo says
Great minds around the world are worry because this study is against THEIR BUSINESS!!!
If you think this study is a fraud you should to denounce it and not to do what you are doing!!! If you or Pilates people reduced degrees in adults, show it in a study like this !!! Why I have never seen it?????
Erin Myers says
I don’t think this study is a fraud, I simply don’t think it’s done well and giving scoli people around the world false hope. There are too many variables in this study to draw a viable conclusion. This is not going to be a magic pill for everyone around the world, and THAT is false hope. My heart breaks that people start doing this exercise and it makes their back worse.
This is not bad for my business at all. Many people have come to me wanting more information on this research (and their scoli bodies as a whole), so interestingly, this research has increased my business.
I’m not a medical researcher nor a doctor. At this moment, I have no desire to do research. I’m slammed with clients, am writing two books on scoliosis, am in the process of relaunching Spiral Spine, and have other work out videos in the works. Maybe when all this gets accomplished I can do research…or not. And I’ll just continue what I’m doing and helping people with scoliosis.